Wendy,

It's not so much about caring about one particular idiot as it is about defending Human Rights, which is the bigger picture and the fundamental issue of this whole situation.

But you seem very patriotic. So how about you use that patriotism for defending Human Rights rather than falling for the scare tactics of the current western governments, who, along with many corporations, have everything to gain from your fear of those boogy-man terrorists?

Dear Mr Mann

I'll continue to support Western Governments' efforts to keep us safe from Terrorists so that you can continue to rant about so called Human Rights issues.

How much does it cost the taxpayer to monitor the other infamous Taliban supporter Habib and see that he doesn’t gather or try and incite a bunch of screwed up fanatics somewhere. Do we have to also monitor Hicks when he is released, and is he likely to practice his doctrine or what ever took him to Afghanistan? The lawyers love him where he is as he has provided them with what looks like another lawyer-fest but who is to be responsible for him once he is out.

Black is indeed white.
Neil James begins:
"First, was he a combatant in an armed conflict? The evidence overwhelmingly points to the answer being "Yes" . . ."
It begs the question of: Why has not Hicks been found gulity more than three years ago?

Neil James continues . . .
"Second, if he was a combatant . . ."
Why use the word "if" as the first sentence says there is overwhelming evidence not to use the word "if".

Anth. Yep we are in trouble all right you finally worked that out did you? I did say the Prick should be put before the courts so please dont mis quote me.

M but your too kind to me. He wouldnt give a second thought about you I can assure you.
I am sure the prison is terrible. I am just as sure all prisons are terrible places even the ones here in Australia. Then again they are supposed to be. Thats when you have no rights when your in goal.

As for torture I cant think of a better way of getting information that might save my neigbours and family. I might add we dont chop people heads off like some ! I would love to get my hands of that Coward larden who killed all those people in the world trade center. What a pathetic creep. I would personally torture that idiot.
Ah now there is your first clue. Man Kind.
So until man learns to act with kindness to all this horrible world will continue.In the mean time an eye for a countries eyes. The only way to stop these lunatics is to fight them on their own turf that is unless u want to sit back and do nothing u pathetic lot then cry to Howard nobody protected your family.

Just get it through your head they HATE the West and they hATE us. This includes you! too and your family.
Its not ! just a few extream ones its most of them. They are taught in school and home to fight and hate the West.
Its well bred into them.Again yes give him a trial but in the USA . If hes found innocent then send him back where they found him but dont bring the Prick back here to live off the tax payer because hes not welcome!

Mean time God bless those men women and animals who went to wars in other countries to protect our way of free life.

David Hicks was not one of them.
Lets we forget.

I believe that I have finally worked out what the understanding gap is between the protagonists in this discussion. The gap is caused because those on the left are internationalists. However the problem that the internationalists have is that the people of the various nation states around the world have never delegated any of their powers to any international organisation, and there is no prospect that they ever will. As a result, international law is a joke, depending entirely on national law for its implementation. There is no world government, there is no world army, and there is no world court (except for one where the nation states are free to decide whether or not they will abide by its ruling). The internationalists cannot accept that public areas in Australia are the collective private property of Australian citizens, and aliens have no rights at all, except those that the Australian people, through their parliament, are pleased to grant them. True, we have entered in to treaties on these subjects, but we retain the right to abrogate these treaties at any time if it should suit us. These feelings of nationalism are deeply ingrained, and are the product of hundreds of thousands of years of evolution, so they will not change any millenium soon. The only time I can see when the people of the world will be united is when we are all fighting the Martians.


The reality that has to be accepted is that the economic insecurity of modern life, coupled with the war between the West and Islam, is causing a massive resurgence of christianity and nationalism around the West which has left the internationalists bewildered.

The second reality is that the General Assembly of the United Nations, where the people of India have the same voting power as the people of Nauru, must be one of the least democratic organisations ever invented.