Rache.

If all u can do is use this post as a personal insult colum then I suggest u dont use it at all.

I suffer from RT which translated to u means its painful to type at all.

That condition is made worse because of the hours working on such things as this www.halakindmeats.com and this www.livexports.com Not to mention our familys international School of English and Langage.

Yep I tend to just bash things out and not worry too much.

What I am concerned about is people like you who display a bankrupt of bassic manners and principles.
Be all the same if I were someone who left school at an early age or! never attended school at all like many.

Your mean spirit and the lack of anything uselful to say either for or against Hicks is another example of the empty headed fools who go on this line simply to be offensive personally to others.

You must have little else to worry about even considering the state of this world.
I can only pity you I suppose.

As I was saying before i was interupted on this post yes Hicks should have a day in court.

I have rarely encountered such a twisted attempt to argue in support of something indefensible.

A truly foolish article, written by an author willing to distort facts, legal interpretations, public policy, and public sentiment, while maintaining a thin veneer of logic to expedite the conclusion of an objective that remains obscure.

Can we simply agree that Hicks is an idiot and that, while idiocy might normally be rewarded by appointment to public office, its time he was sent home?

Are We Right to Condemn Hicks?
(who's who in the war on terror) - Part 1

In January 2001, David Hicks went to Afghanistan. This much was known by his father, later that year:

http://www.fairgofordavid.org/htmlfiles/documents/interview.htm

Now, lest we forget, the Taliban "government" was not the enemy at the time, although we all saw the documentaries on ABC/SBS showing the utter contempt for humanity shown by the Taliban, and we all probably wished they would drop dead.

Nevertheless, Colin Powell arranged a gift of $43 million to the Taliban as late as May of that year, months after David arrived:

http://www.cato.org/dailys/08-02-02.html

So Hicksie was not entering "enemy territory" as far as any government (including ours) was concerned. Indeed we were willing to turn a blind eye to their machinations all along:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/htmlContent.jhtml?html=%2Farchive%2F1997%2F12%2F14%2Fwtal14.html

Note here that the present President of Afghanistan was an employee of Unocal at that time.

Moving on, it's time to look at how the Taliban was created in the first place, because nothing - NOTHING - ever happens for no reason. There is a reason for everything if we just look, and the beginnings of the Taliban deserves a topic and thread all it's own.

The Taliban had it's unforseen beginnings during the reign of President Jimmy Carter. Carter was, and is, a good bloke. But he fell in with the wrong crowd during the oil crisis of those days (there is an ironical parallel here with our Iraqi escapade).

Carter's foreign policy nerd was Zbigniew Brzezinski (who's name I can't pronounce to this day). Brzezinski the brainstormer had this terrific idea of luring the (evil enemy) USSR into Afghanistan, where they might meet the fate of the old British Empire. And they did - with a lot of help from the CIA.

The trouble is that the CIA did such a good job of filling the local yokels with spite, venom and hatred, that it will take generations to undo. Those CIA bastards even supplied math books to schools, which used guns and tanks instead of apples and oranges to assist with counting - it's a fact!

Are We Right to Condemn Hicks?
(who's who in the war on terror) - Part 2

The defeat of the USSR by CIA assisted Afghanis is history. Osama Bin Laden was a vital CIA asset for the channeling of money and arms. You just don't "leave" the CIA without their say-so, or you're dead meat. I wonder if he is alive at all.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0111/S00018.htm

The death-toll of Afghanis was considerable, and there seems to be little to refer to except a UN report suggesting 10,000 deaths in just one nine month period of that nine year war. The bottom line is that there were many, many orphans. A generation of young men were taken in by the only people who would take care of them - the madrassas.

There, without a woman's touch, they grew with this for their education:

http://prisonplanet.com/bush_and_the_media_cover_up_the_jihad_schoolbook_scandal.html

It was those children who grew to become the narrow-minded, unyielding, mysoginistic foot soldiers of the Taliban. There is nothing natural about mysoginism. There is nothing in the history of Islam to explain this great terrorism of which we are supposed to be afraid.

I submit that radical Islamic fundamentalism is a modern phenomenon. It is MADE IN THE USA. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. It continues to be a tool of the geopolitical nerds.

Maybe Brzezinski should have the last word:
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Peace – ‘The FBI admit that they have no hard evidence to show that Osama’ – in that case, I guess Osama’s own confessions and bragging don’t count. Millions of Muslims worldwide believe him, you must know something we don’t.

‘I don't think that we are hated for our way of life’- Of course we are hated for our way of life. There are innumerable statements by Muslim leaders to prove it. Individual freedom - freedom of speech and religion, the freedom of women to be educated, to dress as they wish, the freedom to choose one’s own path in life instead of slavishly following the dictates of imans and despots – is anathema to religious Fascists like Bucky Bashir and the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia. It is also a very great threat to their power over their followers.

Wendy – ‘Dee this is about Hicks ..’ - excuse me? I think you are mixing me up with another contributor. Reread! I'm one of the people with no sympathy for Hicks. I’m glad he was nabbed too.

I wish people posting here would stop directing personal insults at those with whom they disagree. I was always told at school that you lose a debate the moment you engage in personal denigration. Seems there are quite a few ‘losers’ in this neighbourhood. So please 'lose' the lame advice about forgetting to take medication, pointing out obvious typos, having alzheimers et al. It really lowers the tone of the forum.

Chris Shaw says:
"There is nothing in the history of Islam to explain this great terrorism of which we are supposed to be afraid.
I submit that radical Islamic fundamentalism is a modern phenomenon. It is MADE IN THE USA. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. It continues to be a tool of the geopolitical nerds"

ROTFL -You're joking aren’t you Chris?...aren’t you Chris?
Please don't let your (quite reasonable) distrust of Bush or US foreign policy blind you to the origins & dangers of fundamentalist Islam. Please take a look at the history of Islam from its beginning up to how it is being practiced in modern Islamic societies.
And then reconsider what you said.