"The way Indigenous deal with these tragedies is truly noble. They have truly noble cultural influence to do that. We need these positve influence in our society more than ever.

What else is good? Their art, their music - they sings songs of justice that suggest to me a culture that has a developed sense of justice - unlike our country’s rulers and Leigh and Zorro.

Archie Roach, Kev Carmody,Jimmy Little, Warumpi Band comes to mind. I like the way Indigenous culture has influenced our art and music. Paul Kelly and even punk rockers Frenzal Rhomb and punk rappers The Herd. I like Rainer’s posts. They contribute to making this country a more cultural diverse and meaningful place."

This is an earlier post of Rancitas on this thread. Horus you see what you want to see; read into things what you want to read.

Electric guitars, drums, amps, speakers, popular music are adapted from Euroculture. Read also my other posts on other threads on these matters. Horus, you are so bogged down in what the stereotype is supposed to say that you are apparently too obsessed to read what is actually said.

Now your racist mind conveniently wants the Indigenous peoples to forget their history and pretend that there was no injustice - that it is all irrelevant. I disagree with you Horus.

Why is Horus et al so strident in whitewashing cultural and historical negatives of European culture while bashing into Indigenous culture regardless of the many positives in Indigenous cultures? I think it points to racism.

It is dishonest to verbal posters Horus. For instance: You say that Rancitas takes merit in playing the game 'I have more scars than you'.

Rancitas never said that nor plays any such games.

That assertion is incorrect and dishonest. Just as your previous dishonest behaviour of quoting Rancitas' concluding statement and then not putting it in the context of my supporting arguments demonstrates your lack of sensible arguments.

Horus, has it ever occured to you that you don't know 'what you don't know'. ?

For Rainer:
It has occurred to me Rainer that you "don’t know" a lot of what you profess to know.

At a personal level I have not doubts you are a likable bloke.

Yet it is amazing, when someone challenges your beliefs, how quickly you turn foul (or should that be fowl).

Hving just read all comments,this is my verdict,Rancitas 100% correct, Big Al.your comment about flags,who says that the Aboriginal people's flag,should be replaced with the Australian flag,my view is that the Aboriginal flag,is Australian,the Australian flag reminds me of colonial rule?, Bush bred grow up and do not classify the Aboriginal people in your stupid way,they are not a beaten people,time will prove that,and then there is Zoro 0/100%,there is also a racist element in some of these comments in general

As to the debate about Aboriginal people and their culture,there to seems to be unfounded and non logical comments and interpretations,with regard to culture,but to put all into one basket,is wrong,all I know is this,is Australia,and the Aboriginal culture,as seen through the eyes of some,really does not count,after all the Aboriginal Race,and not people as some would like us to believe,as an example Andrew Bolt,from the rightwing think tank,a brainless lot of self believers,that they are right,the Aboriginal RACE,have culture,and what has white Australia got to offer us as CULTURE.On a closing note,someone wrote,that the left is always being beaten,by the rightwing THINK TANK,that is bulldust,there are some of us who are not willing to give up the fight against the right,and this writer,is not prepared to give in to the rightwing views and opinions of a minority,but must mention the name Andrew Bolt,riding high with his opinions,but will in due time,be brought down to earth,this writer,has been around for some period of time,and have encountered many Andrew Bolts,who are now history