The aptly self-styled Redneck pontificates on some links he alleges exist between equality, class (by which he seems to mean occupation, dress and accent), geographical location and race or "other breeds of men". And by some mystical process, and without a shred of hard evidence, he is able to conclude not only "that the proportion of intelligent people living in Mosman is much higher than the proportion of intelligent people living in Macquarie Fields, or Moe" but also that "most people would concede that proposition".

If he would just tell us what job he does, where he lives, what he wears, how he speaks and what his breeding is we will be able to assess his intelligence. On the other hand, why should we bother with other evidence when he already demonstrates his giant intellect in his own words?

Redneck,
"....All human societies above 200 people have “classes” of people....." and from this point you continue shooting yourself in your foot by contradicting your own statement.
You seem to be misled by your own fears and shadows that if i'm able to afford an ipod and moving around with it, then i'm 'smarter' than my friends on the streets who can only afford a walkman. How sad this type of thinking this is? Material success is not intelligence at all. I know a lot of people in my village in Africa who didn't have an opportunity to go to university or even school but they are heaps smarter than most people I interract with in this country. Actually this whole intelligence thing is relative because if someone from my village is put in the bush without tax from the government and HECS and all that, they will be able to aply their own skills to survive by hunting animals and collect wild fruits to feed themselves. The fact they can't operate a computer or a remote control of a TV doesn't make them 'dumb' or lower IQ.
Talking about homicide in terms of numbers, last time I talked to a lawyer I was told 'whites' lead in numbers in terms of homicide crime rate. Listening to you, one would think there's no need to build jails in white societies. You are forgetting that this whole nation and the white people who occupy it are all sons and daughters of hardcore crimal convicts. And yes I'm 100% pure black, it doesn't get any 'blacker' than me and i can assure you i performed much better than my white folks in uni classes. And world wars killed many people than any war in any era of humanity and my black people never started it.
Look man what we are trying to tell you is that they are beautiful/ugly; dumb/smart; criminals - thieves, murderers, etc in any race or society. Please get over what your redneck grandparents told you!

I rarely bother responding to the likes of Redneck however, I couldn’t let his latest piece of denigration go unchallenged.

He desperately attempted to link his statement: “Criminologists ruefully (sic) admit today that there is indeed a genetic factor in criminal behaviour, and that criminal behaviour is most commonly linked to low intelligence” to race.

There is no evidence that any particular race exhibits more criminal behaviour or is less intelligent than another.

The link below discusses and defines criminal behaviour. There is no “rueful” admission here, just reported studies of inherited traits within some FAMILIES.

Criminal behaviour crosses all societies and races and is not racially linked.

http://www.aic.gov.au/publications/tandi2/tandi263t.html

Given that there is evidence for inherited anti-social traits within families it is reasonable to posit that Redneck comes from a family of racists.


We have no choice over whether we are born white or black. We do have choice over our interaction with others. And we can choose to disregard the vile intent of posters like Redneck as, no doubt, many do.

Scout, Sadly, these are the types that are considered to be 'Typically Australian".

Sadder still is that they want new (and old) Australians to assimilate into this kind of thinking.

I've had a few complaints about Redneck's post above, and another he's made on another thread. When you run a free-speech site like this one you often find yourself in a bit of a bind. Redneck's post is wrong on the subject of race. (On the social demographic issues there is some correlation between social demographic indicia and school results, although I think most would put this down to nurture rather than nature.) Worse than that, he expresses himself objectionably. But free speech means nothing if you censor someone like Redneck for merely stating a view. That doesn't make it any the less depressing.

However, when I read the posts responding to Redneck, it gives me heart, because that is how the system is supposed to work. An unreasonable post gets reasonable responses which are reasonably persuasive.

The test is how a reasonable person, with an open mind, might view the exchange, not how I do. So, I'm going to do an experiment and get my younger daughter to read this thread and then tell me what she thinks about the various participants and the issues. My bet is that Redneck will have conclusively lost the argument, personally as well as argumentatively. I'd also be interested in any feedback from others who might be prepared to try the same experiment.

To Mr Amel

I will guarantee that 95-97% of the inmates of Russian prisons are males. This is a factor which repeats itself in every society around the world. That factor alone is just one compelling indicator that crime and genetics are linked.

But the primary factor in criminal behaviour is not genetics, but culture. Those societies that possess poor social cohesion (usually through multiculturalism), that have low respect for authority, which possess paternalistic males codes of honour that are medieval in concept, that have a culture where where females exist in only three states, (virgins, mothers and whores) and where criminal behaviour is openly glamourised (heard any rap music lately?) , have unacceptably high rates of serious criminal behaviour.

Such cultures are common in pre industrial, third world societies. I would point out that this is where Australia is presently recruiting its immigrants, and it is the primary reason why Australian rates of violent criminal behaviour are skyrocketing.

You imply that poverty is the primary factor. But serious criminal behaviour is spiraling upwards in the Western world during a period of unprecedented prosperity, and very poor societies exist with very low rates of criminal behaviour.