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By Colin Rubenstein, published 21/4/2006If the "Israeli lobby" is so powerful, why does Lowenstein get published so frequently?
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Posted by rhross, Sunday, 21 May 2006 6:48:49 PM
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MichaelK,
Re-read my comment above: the only 'state' recognised under the UN as a state under occupation is the state of Palestine. The ‘land grab’ concept you keep comparing to is different: - Australia and the US the land grab did not happen under the new recognised legal system. Ie there was no country called ‘aboriginia’ or ‘Tomahokia’ that the birtish settlers destroyed their sovereignty. - Israel’s case is a separatist movement (a combination of Palestine Jews and European Jews) decided to have a jewish state to avoid future persecution. - Don’t give me the historical piece because until early 1900 Israelites didn’t have a plan where Israel as a country should be. The British count of Jews living in Palestine in 1905 was less than 10% of the population. Here is an interesting article: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v28/n06/mear01_.html My point is simple: having a Palestinian state is in Israel's best interest and you should 'lobby' for that. Posted by Fellow_Human, Monday, 22 May 2006 9:13:15 AM
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If historically proven then existing state-predecessor of modern Israel was not a political entity for playing English recently, so Roman and Greek empires were not eventually, the modern Italians have got no rights on British Islands developed upon centuries by invaders from continental Europe, outside the UK among whom even a Slav known as the most famous English king Arthur.
Posted by MichaelK., Monday, 22 May 2006 12:26:10 PM
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Do you speak English?
Posted by Strewth, Monday, 22 May 2006 2:59:24 PM
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Strewth,
Perhaps the problem is not speech, but reading and writing. Posted by Philo, Monday, 22 May 2006 7:04:47 PM
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Or in the mind.
Posted by Strewth, Monday, 22 May 2006 7:30:51 PM
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What the Jews had in what we now call Palestine was land that they conquered and settled after defeatingand slaughtering the Canaanites. Actually, the land of Israel, as established then, in archeological terms, that means the evidence for, was not much more than a succession of camps. The Bible of course being more myth than fact.
But, on the basis that this represents something meaningful .... that means the Italians have rights to southern Britain and London because they conquered and settled in the same way and were then forced to leave. One could relate countless other conquerors from ancient times who did exactly the same thing and who are now considered to have no rights.
Ditto followers of the Jewish religion.