Gosh Philo those Kalashnikovs are really going to make Israel quake. There jet fighters, missiles and nuclear weaponry are absolutely no match for a few machine guns!

You are still overlooking the core point: None of this would be happening if Israel were not a brutal and aggressive occupier and coloniser. Ergo: end the occupation and return to original borders or you cannot complain about the Palestinians arming themselves to fight you.

Or do you not think that the French had a right to fight the Germans? Or that the British, if the Nazis had triumphed, should not ave fought back in any way they could?

Of course you don't. You believe everyone has a right to fight for their freedom except the Palestinians because you believe Israel has a right to colonise all of Palestine. That's why this terrible conflict keeps on going. It is tragic. You defend human rights abuses and war crimes committed by Israel in a way you would not defend them committed by anyone else.... maybe except the Americans... Israel's 'twin.'

Philo, your mate Abba Eban once said "Propaganda is the art of persuading others of what one does not believe oneself." The problem with your posts is that they simply aren't persuading anyone. Sorry, I know you're trying hard. 10 out 10 for industriousness, but mate, it's just not working.

Philo,

This comment proves to me you are into repetitive propaganda:

"These weapons enter Gaza without any problem as the Egyptian security guards are turning a blind eye to the smugglers"

Wrong, the facts are: The limited number of Egyptian policemen (including equipment and armament they use) in Sinai is decided by Israelis and Americans according to the peace treaty with Israel.
Egyptian army is not allowed in Sinai and the limited number of police there have to guard a territory 3 times the size of Israel

It can be treated as a usual example of an Australian illiteracy – this time on history of the Jewish State. In this case, lucking of elementary knowledge (or simply decepting naive not-educated locals with personal agenda)could definitely be forgiven, as this topic did not belong to local school curriculum explicitly:

<<Michael K,

Your comment “And Palestinians, that is the Arabs from Israel,” Is a mythology and one of the reasons why we have a living breathing problem.

- The country partitioned in 1948 was a country called Palestine (Not Israel).
- Israel have never been a country or a state…ever..Israelites they livede everywhere in the middle east including Medina and Mecca as merchants and business people. ‘they lived there’ does not mean they have the right for ethnic cleansing of Palestinians.
- Israel to non-Israelis is a separatist movement of Jewish people wanting to have their own country / home to live in. I don’t have a problem and many Arabs Muslims have no problem except for your above statement: why would you want Palestinian arabs (Muslims or Christians) to live there and forget their identity? Just give them their land back and have a good life and let them enjoy theirs…Simple really..

Food for thoughts...

Posted by Fellow_Human, Friday, 12 May 2006 4:56:11 PM>>>>>>

Look, Lol: ALL this rubbish of "identity" is a food for ANY gescheft-macher regardless of their identity and contributes local racist mafia the most: Muslim girls wearing headscarf play with boys, as witnessed plenty times on beaches round any Australian city, regardless of what they told during schooling by mullah or parents at homes in Australia. And reality is either people are in society or they are tourists targeted for cash-in-hand black market Australian opportunities, just to increase their hostile attitude towards each others and between so-called "multicultural communities".

Love it or hate it but that is a reality of any country established by land grabbing.

Hello MichaelK,

I just corrected your comment with basic facts....

I can't see whats common between Australia and Israel: Your 'land grabbing' and 'ethnbic cleansing' is still happening today and not during the land grabbing centuries.
Problems cannot be solved with denial and we can either recognise the complexity and deal with it or keep 'lobbying'.

What’s common between Israel and Australia?

Diversity of people and cultures and democratic principles are in common.

Significant differences: Israel was reinstated as the Jewish State in a place where the Jews had got their state and no Arabic political entity was never existing since the history recorded, whereas Australia, a part of a British Dominion (Commonwealth more recently) had been established in an imaginary “terra nullius” by annihilating the indigenous population as it was done in an already established similar colony in Northern America, because of U.S. newly acquired independence from common London masters.