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By Colin Rubenstein, published 21/4/2006If the "Israeli lobby" is so powerful, why does Lowenstein get published so frequently?
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Posted by Philo, Saturday, 6 May 2006 8:04:59 PM
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"What the Israeli military did was a criminal act and will be brought to justice." Awesome! Now what about those 700 odd Palestinian kids murdered by your heroes? When will those criminal acts be brought to justice? Take the case of 13 year old schoolgirl, Iman al-Hams, first gunned down, then finished off at point blank range by Captain 'R' in October 2004. He was recently acquited, awarded 80,000 Israeli shekels compensation for his troubles, and promoted to major. Justice in Israel doesn't get much better than that. But those 700 aren't a problem for you, are they Philo? They're not Jewish, so they don't count. "Laws that deal with criminal acts against children"? Pull the other one. As I've said before - truly Monumental Hypocrisy.
Posted by Strewth, Saturday, 6 May 2006 10:48:20 PM
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Israelis believe that Arabs are inferior. They like to believe that they are superior and the only democracy in the region despite the fact that it is Israel which commits the greatest human rights abuses in the region, and that's saying something given the tyrannical regimes which run most Arab countries.
Fact is, Israel is the only one using State sanctioned terrorism to maintain an occupation and colonisation programme. Israel is responsible for the wilful murder of men, women and children; for the refusing access to medical treatment which results in the deaths of babies; for imprisonment without trial and torture; for attacks on its neighbours. It is also a declared racist State which refuses to give full rights to all citizens. Tom Hurndall and James Miller were murdered by the IDF as was Rachel Corrie so the IDF is happy to murder non-Arabs as well as Arabs. Thanks to British law the last two might get justice because the case is being pursued to bring not just the murderers to justice but their military superiors Posted by rhross, Saturday, 6 May 2006 10:56:50 PM
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http://www.aviransplace.com/index.php/archives/2006/05/03/israeli-hackers-hacked-iranian-government-sites/
“Unlike Islam’s Koran, which commands Muslims to force the entire planet to submit to literal control by Islam, the Jewish Torah promises the children of Israel a modest and reasonable allotment of land. Israel in RED , is a democratic nation 1/19th the size of California, surrounded by 22 hostile Arab/Islamic dictatorships with 640 times her size, 60 times her population and ALL the oil. How dare Arab propagandists call Israel “expansionist!” And how dare anyone believe them! How can Israel, which occupies one-sixth of one percent of the lands called Arab, be responsible for the political dissatisfaction of 22 Arab countries? How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide?” http://www.townhall.com/opinion/columns/WThomasSmithJr/2006/05/01/195455.html "The only thing standing between Western Civilization and the anarchy of Islamo-fascism is the fact that there is a Western country in the Middle East, namely Israel,” says Linder. "If Israel did not exist, all of the energy and attention of the Islamic World would be focused on Christian Europe." My friend, Gary Goldstein, a New York-based books editor and fourth-generation Jewish American, agrees. "Strategically, Israel is a major deterrent to the spread of radical Islam throughout that part of the world, Posted by Martin Ibn Warriq, Monday, 8 May 2006 1:25:43 PM
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Putting to one side MIB's irrelevant nonsense about Islam and Judaism (as if they had anything to do with the colonial issue of Palestine), and dealing with the twisted 'logic' of his central argument - a commonplace of Zionist propaganda - we find that because the Palestinians are 'Arabs' there should be no problem with them decamping permanently for somewhere else in the Arab world, abandoning their land, homes and businesses to European, American, and Australian Jews, most of whom incidentally have voted with their feet and remained in Europe, America, Australia etc. By the same 'logic' I could just as easily make out a case for Australian Jews decamping to New York.
As for MIB's second 'contribution', a clarifying quote from Mearsheimer & Walt is in order: "[S]aying that Israel and the US are united by a shared terrorist threat has the causal relationship backwards: the US has a terrorism problem in good part because it is so closely allied with Israel, not the other way around. Support for Israel is not the only source of anti-American terrorism, but it is an important one, and it makes winning the war on terror more difficult. There is no question that many al-Qaida leaders, including Osama bin Laden, are motivated by Israel's presence in Jerusalem and the plight of the Palestinians. Unconditional support for Israel makes it easier for extremists to rally popular support and to attract recruits." Posted by Strewth, Monday, 8 May 2006 7:04:46 PM
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Martin,
"How can the 13 million Jews in the world (almost 5 million fewer than they were in 1939!) be blamed for the problems of the 300 million Arabs, who have brotherly ties to 1.4 billion Muslims worldwide?” yup man totaly puts a lil perspective on it all, btw on anti Jew propaganda a visit to the site http://www.memritv.org/ is worth the effort, it's just translations of the hatred to Jews nothing more nothing less. Posted by meredith, Tuesday, 9 May 2006 12:35:25 AM
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I don't know if you recognise the difference? What the Israeli military did was a criminal act and will be brought to justice. What is happening in Iran is from poverty and Government neglect. Their society did not get that way because of Israel. Israel has had no impact on Iran, except Iran's obsession with Israel's destruction. They are more concerned for the pride of Allah than for the people of Iran. Israel is a wealthy country with laws that will deal with criminal acts against children. This is not the case in Iran. Mohamet had sex with a nine year old girl, so they see nothing wrong with having sex with children.