Scout (Dianne)

Thanks for that last post. Great stuff!

Cheers
Kay

@scout:

For all Indonesians, SEPARATISTS ARE TERRORISTS because they exclusively committed acts of terrorist violence against Indonesian and foreign citizens.

In 2002, these barbaric Papuan separatist terrorists brutally murdered two American and one Indonesian schoolteachers.
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel04/papuan062404.htm

In 1996, these barbaric Papuan separatist murderers kidnapped a dozen WWF researchers, brutally butchering two Indonesian researchers. Only an operation of Indonesian armed forces rescued the rest of the researchers from the evil grasp of barbaric Papuan separatists.
http://www.library.ohiou.edu/indopubs/1996/03/19/0004.html

Indonesian people will always consider Papuan separatists as barbaric civilian-murdering terrorists. We know the true nature of these murderers. None of Australian pro-separatist propaganda can ever change this. We know what Australian whites did on Aborigines. We cannot be fooled by lies of descendents of criminal genocidaires!

@rogindon:

You don't care about the innocent victims of barbaric Papuan separatists, do you? You don't think there is anything wrong with kidnapping and murdering Indonesian civilians, do you? You think Indonesian lives are worthless, aren't you? You are happy to give shelter to Papuan separatists who killed Indonesians, right?

How cruel and brutal you are! Dasar anjing ganas!

Proud to be Indonesian, you usually do better posts than the last one. The OPM has used vioence to achieve its political aims. The bulk of the current independence movement do not support violence. Theys Eluays, a former Golkar leader of the Irian Jaya DPD (Regional Legislature) supported independence (separatism if you like) through non-violent means. The response from TNI was to murder him in 2001. Do you condone the murder and torture of Papua activists whose only crime is to peacefully advocate self-determination for their people?

As long as you support "penganiayaan" for "barbaric separatists", surprise surprise they won't be happy anymore to be part of Indonesia.

@rogindon:

LOL, Theys Eluay a "non-violent and peaceful" person? What a joke! Maybe you think of Hitler as a "peaceful" person. Under Suharto, Theys was a loyal Suharto crony and DPD Golkar chief. Theys' livelihood depended on Suharto's monetary largesse. As late as 1997, he said "separatism is the most stupid idea".

After Suharto resigned and democracy arrived, Theys opportunistically made an about-face, and became a mini-Hitler who spoke of non-Papuans as "leeches and cockroaches" and said Papuans are "master race". Between 1999-2001, Theys and his PDP goons provoked so many race riots in Papua province that took the lives of many innocent non-Papuan men, women, and children (such as 2000 Wamena riots when dozens of non-Papuan women and children were barbarically butchered).

His death by strangulation in 2001 is a just end for such a blood-thirsty advocate of racial violence. After he died, racial riots in Papua ended. His strangulation is an act of mercy as it saved lives of many innocent Indonesian citizens. Now, Theys is all about forgotten and his PDP ceased to exist, curiously even his son Boy Eluay is now working for local chapter of Muslim party PKB.

As for Papuan separatists, for Indonesians they will always be barbaric terrorist murderers. We won't talk with separatist murderers unless to arrange their surrender like Helsinki talks with GAM. We have no interest in attracting common murderer by abolishing murder laws, same case we won't appease barbaric separatist murderers by tolerating activities of separatists and all their foreign sympathisers!

Boaz_David,

The answer to you question as to why the Papuan assylum seekers didn't go East to PNG is quite simple. The walk is too difficult - think Kakoda except following, not crossing the Stanley-Owen. As for sailing, the prevailing winds in that part of the world go from East to West, making sailing very difficult from Papua to PNG. South is much easier.

PTBI,
You are a stirrer, aren't you. You will find little sympathy for Javanese Imperialism here. Indonesia is just a relic of the Dutch East India colonial empire, and it too will fail.

Equating Australia's people with its remote past in reference to the treatment of Indigenous Australians is offensive. I have never harmed an Aboriginal. It is more likely that a Javanese has caused harm to a Papuan.

As to the Papuan Assylum seekers, DIMIA will review their claims, and if warranted they would only then be given that status. Until then, they are on TEMPORARY Protection Visas.

As far as separatists are concerned, every twenty years or so, Western Australia wants to secede, but no seriously considers them "barbarian terrorists" for suggesting this.

@Narcissist:

LOL, your way of inventing fairy-tale excuses for these barbaric Papuan separatists' propaganda stunt makes me laugh. The Papuan separatist "asylum seekers" themselves admitted they went to Australia instead of PNG as a form of dirty propaganda against Indonesia:

"But they decided against the common solution of slipping across the border with Papua New Guinea. "We have not received any serious international attention by seeking asylum in P.N.G., says Wainggai through an interpreter. "We decided that because of Australia's role in taking responsibility in the Pacific area we would come here."
http://www.time.com/time/pacific/magazine/article/0,13673,503060417-1181678,00.html

LOL, we Indonesians couldn't care less about descendents of criminal genocidaires whose status is just that of an obidient stooge of USA. We value your laughable "opinions" as much as we value a handful of dust, we just love bitchslapping Australia as punishment for this little country's pathetic arrogant behaviour.

LOL, how many people has West Australian "separatists" murdered? I am sure if they start murdering Victorians or Queenslanders, you'll very quickly think of them as terrorists.