What crap.

They tried to be players, they tried to be gangsters, they messed around in a country you dont take those sort of risks in. they got done.

Whether they dont deserve to die or not, they knew the outcome if they got caught.

They played with fire and got burnt. If you know the risks and ingore them, your fate awaits. This is their fate unfortunately, they might be good human beings deep down and they may of rehabilitated in the future, but if i told someone if they do something i will kill them, and they do it, what else do they expect?

Prohibition [of drugs] does not work. I just wonder what is in the minds of those politicians and bureaucrats [of any nation] who think that something which has not previously worked will ever become effective.

I have no personal axe to grind on addiction. I have never smoked anything, never done drugs, legal or otherwise, never been a heavy drinker and never been a gambler. But I would say it's almost certainly true that most addicts get that way before they are old or mature enough to fully realise the consequences.

I believe that addiction is a sickness. Perhaps basically self imposed, but we could say that about all the so-called "lifestyle" illnesses. Addicts should be encouraged to register at an appropriate clinic, where they will get suitable treatment and counseling and no moralising. If the only available treatment, at least initially, is more of their drug of addiction, then that's better than forcing them to prostitute themselves or commit serious crimes to put money in the pockets of drug dealers.

Some would say why should their taxes pay for drugs supplied free to addicts. Well, that's cheaper and more efficient than paying for endless law enforcement which never stops the illegal drug trade anyway.

Surely most addicts would prefer to satisfy their needs the easy way and the bottom would fall out of the illegal trade. But as for the proven organisers of the drug trade, well I really don't care what happens to them. And if they're stupid enough, or greedy enough to pursue their business interests in a country with the death penalty, well that's their choice.

Osbib.
Only a fool argues with an idiot, so I wont waste my breath. It is a miricle that your mother taught you how to suck. But when she weans you, you will expire.

As for the Bali nine,it would not be any loss if they all got the death penalty. Indonesia is getting to compassionate.

I have been to Indonesia on many occasions and I can remember the signs at the airport on entry indicating very clearly that drug traffickers will receive the death penalty.

What didn't these 2 understand about all the signs?

They say they didn't hurt anybody? What about the drugs they were attempting to send here to Oz. They were not going to hurt anyone?

While the lawyers and apologists are all wringing their hands about the uselessness of capital punishment they fail to acknowledge that it has a very low associated recidivism rate.

I love the way Mirko Bagaric tries to portray his experienced drug trafficking clients as just lost little boys who did something a bit naughty.

Heroin deaths in Australia were 700 in 1997 and this figure has now risen to over 1,000 deaths per annum.. Add to that around fifty deaths caused by Methadone.

Add to that, people killed indirectly by drugged up drivers or people murdered by desperate junkies who finance their habits entirely by serious criminal behaviour. Add to that the cost of running stupid "injection rooms" while patients in NSW die for a lack of hospital beds. Add to that the direct cost of $3 billion dollars paid by junkies for their drug, much of which is financed by burglary, muggings and shoplifting.

Dear little "Andrew and Sukamaran" knew exactly what they were getting into when they decided to declare war on their own community. Fortunately, they were apprehended in a state which takes a dim view of their murderous activities.

Bye, bye, boys. You wanted to be gangsters and you got your wish. The world will be a better place without you, and your deaths might spark some neuronal activity in others who were thinking of emulating you.

Unfortunately, the Indonesian justice system isn't one of the best features of that country. Firstly, they effectively reverse the burden of proof requiring the defendants to prove their innocence instead of the other way round. Secondly, they impose horrendously harsh penalties for drug possession. Thirdly, it's really about politics, politics politics...... Not justice. If you're well connected in Indonesia, you're got one hell of an advantage. Foreigners with no political connections whether they're innocent like Schapelle or guilty like the Bali Nine don't stand much of a chance. I'm speaking as someone who lived in Indonesia nine years and worked with the court system there.