dobbadan,

This sounds like an urban myth at best, or something that you have simply made up.

If it's not complete rubbish, please provide link to web site.

How can that possibly be "too dangerous"? If it's available on the WWW it's in the public domain already.

If you made it up or are passing on a conspiracy theory, you might think about getting a life.

mikeM,
I do not know this event, but can share some equally amazing stories of Muslim conversions to follow Christ. But in the interest of those defecting from Mahomet to follow Jesus as saviour and example of life, places their life in danger in Islamic countries of the death penalty. So I suggest you broaden your horizons.

Philo,

If you have some "equally amazing stories", why not share a few with us, with attribution to original sources (names, places, dates). I assume though that you do not go out of your way to find "amazing" stories of Christians who convert to Islam, a less than rare experience.

It could be argued that American blacks who convert to Islam also place their life in danger, or risk life incarceration, although the dynamics of the risk are rather different.

I find unattributed stories like dobbodan's, that are likely as not made up or recountings of urban myths, completely unconvincing in any reasoned discussion.

As for a pastor who entertained the idea of baptising his new flock in a "crocodile infested river" - what's happened to the doctrine of duty of care?

Or are there Christian sects that believe that to be eaten by a crocodile the moment you are baptised is a certain way to go to Heaven?

Puh-lease!

The distinction that apostacy was really trechery, and involved the attacking of the clan(s) that adopted the prophet's religion, only strengthens my argument that Islam was and is not a religion, but a political system calling itself a religion. Whilst all religions seek political influence (initially for their own benefit, but usually throwing the net a bit wider after a while), Islam seeks political control. It is clear from the case in Afghanistan that Islam takes to itself the claim to the monopoly on violence, the touchstone of political control. This is not only found in the Koran and Hadith: it is modern too. The International Muslim Declaration on Human Rights leaves out the right to change one's religion. What the writers will object to is not that one might become a Muslim, but that one might decide to no longer be one. And isn't it the case, Irfan, that all the schools of Islam prescribe the death penalty for apostacy?
In the council pound of world religions, Islam is the dog whose rabies has not yet responded to treatment.

MikeM, muslim posters et al,

Why do you find a story of apostacy so amazing and incredible?

Do you really believe that Islam is so superior from any other religion that people would automatically gravitate towards it?

The reason why apostacy is not celebrated and made public in most instances is because of your inability to accept that some of you can reason and think for themselves.

There are many many many stories of conversion from Islam. Watch that space. Soon it will be safe to do so in some parts of the free world. I won't say more for now.

God works in misterious ways. Amen.

Dear Camo

succinct, to the point, and revealing ! (Your post)...that one little pearl of crucial information deserves to be put in headlines mate

"THE ISLAMIC DECLARATION ON HUMAN RIGHTS, HAS NO PROVISION FOR CHANGING YOUR RELIGION" (except 'from' non Islamic faiths 'to' Islam)

Once your 'in'...they slam the door behind you, bolt it, deadlock it.. bar it.. nail it.. (perhaps like we would nail the lid of a coffin)

Sharia law provides for a 'period of reflection' to see if the apostate has changed his mind, then, 'assessment of his sanity' (how could ANYone wish to leave Islam and be sane ?) then, if sane, he is to be executed. This is how "Islamic Law" would work if it were not for the protests of the West. (Afghanistan recently)

The rest of what you said, 'said it' in a nutshell...a theme we have all been laboring here, 'political' rather than religious, etc...

Having lived in a moderate Muslim controlled country I saw 'the look' not a few times, which would have happily carried this out. One guy was the head man of a nearby village, during a revolt in which he was implicated, his job was to murder all of the missionaries. Fortunately, due to intervention, not carried out.

MikeM, I have personally been to a village which experienced Islamic persecution, spoke with those who were present, saw the outcome. I assure you, there are amazing events, but to the cynic, they mean little. Look to Jesus Mike, He is the author and finisher of true faith. Perhaps then you will not only hear about such things, but experience them yourself.