I just read Irfan's response to the case in Afghanistan. He wrote nonsense about there being different interpretations of Islam in Afghanistan.

See what we are dealing with? Whether he is using "taqqiya" on an Infidel audience is besides the point, if he is human, he will denounce what they want to do to Abdul Rahman.

You fool no one Irfan, and you don't even have the guts to defend your barbaric religion.

Why?

Because in your unconcious mind, where logic is set, you know your belief system is wrong.

It annoys me that people so dumb share my planet.

yeh, there is no moderate islam.

islam vrs modern civilisation.

for all who do not want australia's legal system to become even more bogged down in religious notions, you may be interested to know that at least some australian law schools (viz university of melbourne, for example) actually have a 'sharia law' course. this is troubling. if it were a course on 'customary law' - including aboriginal customary law, jewish law, sharia law, customary law from various african nations, etc, then perhaps this may be appropriate for teaching in a law school. if it were a course in cultural studies, then again, that may be appropriate. however, why a law school at an australian university should have a course solely devoted to sharia law is questionable, and should be questioned - strongly.

true it is that much in the british legal system came from ecclesiastical law - but this doesn't mean that we should introduce into the system yet more law/s based in religion. the great struggle between the ecclesiastical courts and the common law courts had meaning. why would we revert to more religion-in-law, or religious-based law?

women (and some decent men) have fought strongly for women's rights to be gained and affirmed within the legal system - even having to fight for the right of women to be classed as human - as 'persons'. this is not the time to backtrack on the extension of all human rights to women and an enhancement of human rights for all, rather than narrowing and limiting the rights of all human beings, or promoting an elite which has rights, and subordinates who do not.

there is enough backtracking going on in the secular world, and secular law, without giving an added fillip to this by embracing religious laws (whatever the religion) that are inimical to the rights of women and hence, to the rights of all human beings.

Boaz David, your post shows how mixed up you are, you say"Islam reduces Jesus to "Prophet" which has to be an aweful insult to God".
Is the Prophet Moses a insult to God,? Moses is responsible for writing the articals of association for your God Club those articals have been changed many times Moses recieved Ten Promises from God. it was Solomon who turned them into commandments, when people love each other they make promises not commands, God loves all of us, its a pity you are unable to understand the real message , maybe you can tell me why your God club had to take out a contract with God , when I ask someone to sign a contract I do that because I do not trust them, it would seem you and your mates posting here .have one thing in common you are reduced to throwing insults, and have great difficulty in identifying with the truth, maybe you should make claims that God is prompting you to write such filth, your God Club have managed so far to hoodwink humanity by saying God promised you the land of Palestine, Jesus was right when he said "forgive them father they know not what they do" mango tree

mangotreeone1,

Mangotreeone1, there is absolutely NOTHING in BOAZ_David’s comments which show him to be “mixed up”

BOAZ David’s comments are clear – he does not say a prophet is in itself an insult to God – how perplexing for you to say so – but he suggests that Jesus,the Messiah, is much more than a prophet. He lay down his life as The Son of God, the highest of all creations. For Islam to say he is just a man and a prophet ‘pisses’ on the significance of the sacrifice and on the highest act of love the world has ever seen.

The “Palestine” lovers are so concerned with a right to a state for a completely new and unprecedented nationality, whereas for some reason the right to self-determination for the world’s oldest nationality— one which has acted, by any moral barometer, with infinitely more compassion, civilization, and care for human life than the new-fangled murderous one he is championing—seems to be extremely limited if it exists at all. That is the classic definition of anti-Semitism: one standard for everyone else, and then an impossible one for the Jews.

As I posted above, it is not proper or helpful to be Liberalist and hold a cultural tolerance which is not reciprocated.

(refer to mypost onMiddleEasternCrime and TASKFORCE GAIN above).

Middle Eastern and Muslims "clash" so violently with Australian society that a State Command on par with homicide, the drug squad, fraud etc is RESERVED SOLELY TO TARGET ASOCIAL MIDDLE EASTERN CULTURE MUSLIMS - as I posted above, I know of white Anglos who are being targeted by racist Muslims and young Australian girls who are hassled, intimidated threatened and raped, and told "you deserve to be raped because you are Australian" - I realise, not emotively, but as a Realist, that it is NOT in our interest as a society to be culturaly tolerant to such asocial racist Islamists, who do not reciprocate, who spit on young Australian primary school children who are lining up for ChristmansCarols, who spray the hall with bullets and burn down two churches.

The only valid argument to introduce Shari'ah is to look at countries and societies that actually practise such laws. If any modern moderate Muslim apoligist can demonstrate it as sign of an advanced and civilised society; where are the examples?.

The modernising might be happening in the minds of progressive Muslims influenced by Western equal justice for all concepts; but it will not be the moderates that rise to the top of politics in the practise and enforcement of such laws. Compromise is a corruption of their concepts of Divine edicts. Their sign of divinity is absolute power, and unquestionable submission to their concept of Allah and the Koran.