Dobbadan , any exuse that put runs on the board has you rushing to the Keyboard , the Sharia law debate is a "God Send" , who is this God that fuels hatred , maybe a antichrist, those who worship the antichrist can not see the true God, their interpretation of the teachings of the Prophets ,are based on knowledge aquired at the time of their indoctrination, this puts them at loggerheads with the true meaning to what Christ actually said , the good books present a false unnatural view of our world , producing more falseness in those practicing to escape from the real world, while forcing others who are not already false to become so by coercing them into compromising their conscience, religious leaders never say lets go out and be "bad today" lets kill some people, the killing is done on Gods behalf. St Dominic never tortured herotics more than once because they died, one act of faith that stands out , the burning at the stake of a four year old girl because she owned a cat,accused of being a witch, those christians who stood around acting out their act of faith, sprinkling holy water praying to God to forgive her, a act of faith today is a nod of the head to a friendly army to invade a Nation, you think you are a good christian if you write racist filth, its your way of sprinkling Holy water on the racist fire your act of faith, When Christ made the blind see, he was not curing ones sight, it was the blindness to all the wrongs that are commited in the name of God, maybe when Dobbadan has his blindness cured he may realise the 4YR old girl was innocent in Gods eyes, you seem to think Muslims are guilty of "owning a cat", whats the difference, their guilty of not behaving like the members of your God Club, do they Burn 4YR old children at the stake, do they butcher unborn babies, you need to wake up, open your eyes for a change, mangotree

mangotreeone1,

I like what you have to say.

If only Christians could see what Muslim eyes see.

Islam teaches about a God who created Adam and Eve, who sent man the prophets Nuh (Noah), Ibrahim (Abraham), Ishaq (Isaac), Musa (Moses), Yahya (John the Baptist), Isa (Jesus). Isa was born miraculously without a human biological father by the will of God. His mother, Mary ("Maryam" in Arabic), is among the most saintly, pious, chaste, and virtuous women ever.

It is not a Muslims intention to be 'evil'. Muslims genuinely believe they are following God righteously.

It is not fruitful to attack one another’s cultures or religions in the hope of opening one another's eyes. Our cultures and religions are different, and what is moral and holy to one is not to the other and vice versa.

Unfortunately, Middle Eastern culture and Islam 'clash' with Australian culture and society (refer to my post above).

If one culture declares war on the other, as has happened with Islam, it is expedient for our society to be Realist and realise that the two cultures do ‘clash’ on many levels, not to be emotive and hateful, but to be reasonable and rational that people are suffering because one culture and religion - Islam - desires to impose itself on ALL of mankind, and does not respect or tolerate other religions - Christianity.

It is not that Islam is 'evil' but that an important element and characteristic of Islam is its intolerance for religions that do not follow Islamic truth.

In this light of 'war', it is not proper or helpful to be Liberalist and hold a cultural tolerance which is not reciprocated.

baraka: Please read about islam on the web, in n/papers, on TV. Islam is evil, islam is misogynistic, islam is totally brutal, islam wants to control the world and take us back to the dark ages.
And you say islam is fine - oh! get a life and/or give the 'pot' away and have a good look around. Unless you are one of them with a little bit of "tiqiyya" to placate and fool the infidels. numbat

baraka: SORRY! I misread your letter. numbat

Dear Baraka
anything which leads humanity 'away' from the Biblical Jesus, Christ, Savior, Lord, .. Son of Man, Son of God, God manifest in the flesh, is, I'm sorry to say 'evil'.

Islam reduces Jesus to 'prophet' which has to be an aweful insult to God.

We have no law which tells us to physically 'attack' people who misrepresent God, we leave that to the Almighty Himself. But you know full well the admonissions in Islamic law as well as the Quran which DO in fact urge violent reaction to attack on either Mohammed or Islam.

There is no escaping this, and again, I have to repeat and underline, that this is 'evil'.

Not only is it 'doctrinally/idelogically' evil, it is also 'violently' evil.

Let me emphasise, I'm referring to the 'religion' rather than the followers. As u say, many DO believe they are following God righteously, but unfortunatly, to 'follow' that God must involve defending him with weapons in the event of Muslims or the name and reputation of Mohammed being attacked. according to Islam.

The issue which most characterizes "Islam" as 'evil' is the close and undeniable association of violence with its founder and prophet, his companions, and subsequent representatives throughout History.

In the case of Christianity, the most that can be said is that when secular or corrupt political figures took control, they did evil also.

Such evil and violence cannot be linked in any way to the teaching or example of Christ, or the Apostles or with anyone for the 300 YRS up to the time of Emperor Constantine.

"If you have seen me, you have seen the Father, how can you ask 'show us the Father ?" Jesus.

Since the rabid leftists & Muslims (don't get confused, don't lump leftists with Muslims, as although they have a bizarre union, Muslims are so far to the right they need a new system to describe them. Honestly, who has ever met a Muslim who isn't extremely conservative? If you have, they aren't obeying their own rules!) haven't answered my question, I'll ask again...

What do Muslims, & rabid leftists, think of the case in Afghanistan? Where does their holy grail of CULTURAL RELATIVISM guide them on this instance?

Or have they even realised...hence the silence...that Islam is so far in the past it's not funny?

Don't desert your post, you guys think all cultures are equal right?

I, on the other hand, do not. Although I do believe that all cultures can change, progress, just as we in the barbaric middle-ages did.

While leftists within Islam try to reform it, the Bob Browns of this world ignore them, prefering to have luch with the sickening homophobe, bigot, racist, misoginist, Keysar Trad.

Leftists have also made comments supporting the Islamist cause, even though their "trendy set" would likely be the first the Islamists would purge, on gaining power.

I feel ill just thinking of what their mindset has done for the western world. It is on the crossroad of being ruined by large hordes of medieval filth.