athiests driving on the wrong side of the road. good one mate. nearly as good as numbat's 'if we were killers we would have been created with claws and fangs'.

its a hoot.

wobbles: I have no problem with the word 'pagan' A pagan is someone who worships false gods.
The moslem [no pagan prefix this time] god is entirely different from the Christian or Jewish God - ENTIRELY DIFFERENT!
Can't you read or are you as thick as two planks, once again I state - I DO NOT HATE MOSLEMS [NO PAGAN ONCE AGAIN]I hate their bloody - as in gory - pagan religion!
As for turning the other cheek - I did not turn the other cheek to the nazis either. A bloke would have been a fool to do so - as with the pagan moslems!
No not a member of any Christian extremists either.
Quote from Musa Al-Qarni, a pagan [there's that nasty word again] moslem mufti: "A concept of jihad is a matter of faith and islamic religious law [Note that word 'law'] which lives in the mind of EVERY [my capitals] moslem on the face of the earth {even in Oz, mine again]. The religious education we receive [even in Oz, again me] through our schools, through our religious jurisprudence, our thinking, and our tradition - jihad is part of this" end of quote. Do you really think that the above quote does not include pagan moslems in Australia? If you do you are a fool or a pagan moslem. I have a lot more quotes from "learned?" pagan islamic scholars and leaders. numbat

Welcome to reality Froggie. This sort of stuff has been going on for yonks.

Previously I had listed what I had noticed, just for this week

Namely:

1.Algeria creating laws that bans Muslims from learning about Christianity.
2.Malaysia saying it will use its Sedition Act to fine/jail any non- Muslim who criticises Islam.
3.A Palestinian Imam praising Allah for inflicting bird flue on the Jews. Etc.
4.Iraq's Sistani saying that homosexuals should be killed in the worst way possible.
5.An Afghani facing death for adopting Christianity and rejecting Islam.

On top of this, why not read the editorial in today’s (Friday) Australian preceded, as it was by an excellent piece yesterday, by Jane Albrechtson. According to MikeM it is probably all a mirage, and we are all delusional.

BOAZ_David wrote, "You said Reuters claimed 'Eta' were "Muslim" terrorists... the Basques are VERY Roman CAtholic, not Muslim."

Yes, I know.

But I've noticed that many contributors to this site have a Bigoted and Obsessive Belief that Flies in the Face of All Evidence. I thought so as to better fit in, I should have one too.

My BOBFFAE is that all terrorists are Muslim, including those in the Basque ETA, the Provisional Irish Republican Army and the Marxist rebels in Nepal.

I flatly deny the convincing evidence that the first two are Roman Catholic and the third is secular.

baraka thinks that I should apologise and I sincerely do, for not making it clear that, like him, I am happy to have a BOBFFAE. So now I have conformed to the site norm, I hope people will stop criticising me.

BOAZ_David failed to comment though on a later part of my same post - which was not distorted by my BOBFAE:

[The ETA ceasefire] coincides with the opening in Seville of the Second World Congress of Imams and Rabbis for Peace, sponsored by Hommes de Parole, a Paris-based peace foundation.

The Israeli newspaper, Haaretz, reports http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/spages/695970.html

'At Sunday's opening ceremony, at one of Seville's ancient palaces, rabbis in black hats and coats sat alongside imams in gowns and conical hats, engaging in friendly conversation...

'Seville was chosen to host the meeting because of its rich symbolism as one of the Spanish cities where Muslims, Jews and Christians lived in harmony under Moorish rule that began in the 8th century and lasted more than 700 years.'

So hands up all contributors who share the BOBFFAE that, as Philo so eloquently puts it, "Muslims are here to enforce Shari'ah upon all nations, they will not relent until it happens."

Religious persecution did not start in Spain until Christians wrested back control: the Spanish Inquisition began promptly in Castile in 1478.

BOAZ_David ,what is your take on Narcissist’s ‘commandment comments’ above’ ? – I am interested in what you have to say in particular about the crucifix. Cheers.

Mickijo, I completely agree. And apparently it is racist these days to expect people to respect the laws which they promised to adhere to. You have to be culturally tolerant Mickijo, even if you’re called an “f#$en Aussie infidel” didn’t you know??!! (sarcasm)

Numbat, completely correct. the idealists, leftists, liberalists, islamists, Islam fascists, apologists, so-called moderate muslims, and every other fool will;

1) call you racist for posting Musa Al-Qarni comments,
2) cover up the widespread islamist sentiment expressed by Musa Al-Qarni by saying he is just some radical crazy sheik who doesn’t represent mainstream muslims.

It is said that a muslim never lies, not even to an infidel, otherwise he is no muslim. Given this, Musa Al-Qarni comments are likely to be truthful sentiment.

I know the idealistic fools would rather it were not the sentiment of muslims, but hey, listen up to the sheiks, the imams and the mullahs - I think they know islam better than you idealistic liberalist cultural tolerant fools. What about those idiot idealistic fools who were part of the islam, fascist, terror- loving, anti-war, Christian group and who went to iraq to protest the war and ‘protect innocent muslims’……………… well, their headless bodies are turning up dumped outside of Baghdad, it looks like the islamists didn’t care for the idiot idealists either – its like a jew going to Nazi germany to protect the germans… and ending up in the ovens (by the way I am a Christian who holds an affinity to Judaism , I don’t mean any disrespect, but you know where im coming form) ;)

To all the fools on this forum, take yourselves to an Islamic state, or to iraq and try to express your beloved cultural tolerance, you’ll likely end up without a head also.

Except for those [hopefully in a small minority in Australia] who claim that their religious way is the only way to salvation and all others are damned, I would say that most Aussies are pretty tolerant and easy going.

But we've had Christian extremists trying to interfere in our freedoms for generations, often with success far out of proportion to their actual numbers. So is it any wonder that many of us are concerned that Muslim extremists, regardless of how small a minority they may be in the Australian Muslim community, may get listened to by our scheming and gullible pollies.

If a new law was introduced which seemed to make sense to most Australians, and could be repealed anyway if the need arose, then I wouldn't give a damn if it turned out to be similar to an aspect of Sharia. The same as I regard "you shall not kill" as plain common sense and not as some kind of evidence that "God" spoke to Moses.

But if any Australian pollie was stupid enough to suggest incorporating Sharia [as a religious law] into Australian law, the I think that he/she should have his/her superannuation entitlements amputated!