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By Sebastian De Brennan, published 22/3/2006It is only a matter of time before Sharia law is proposed as a legitimate means of resolving disputes as they arise between Islamic Australians.
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Posted by Francis, Thursday, 23 March 2006 8:15:39 PM
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Numbat,
I think you have a problem with the word "pagan". A pagan is someone who has no God or has several Gods. The Muslim and Jewish God are the same God as the Christian God. All 3 monotheistic religions started from the same source. The word "infidel" is the same as the word "pagan". Christians are not infidels as Muslims are not pagans. These words have been hijacked by extremists in each religion to mean something else. Likewise "the great Satan" is actually "the great Shaitan" - a figure of ridicule who has no spiritual beliefs. This expression too was hijacked and distorted by the Western media. The hate and intolerance that keeps bubbling to the surface in most of your posts makes me wonder why you consider yourself to be a Christian at all. No "turning the other cheek", "do unto others" or "love thy neighbour" for you. You just want to "smite" everybody who doesn't embrace your personal philosophy. Must be a member of one of the extremist versions I suppose. Posted by wobbles, Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:16:43 PM
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Hitler was an anti christ type, and so are many Muslim leaders,who lead their people into same thinking , they are psyched and brainwashed Islamists who demand sharia law which is barbaric and unjust ,so why ask for it. Instead, return to where you New Ozzies came from.
The West Australian newspaper had a true story 2 days ago of a muslim girl aged 13 buried up to her shoulders in sand and was stoned to death for eating during rhamadan. Also, a 15 year old boy was killed too.Muslims say they fast during this belief but only during the daytime ,they eat and drink all night. Christians fast anytime they like ,even up to 40 days , it is their choice not from a religious demanding law that cannot be kept at times. Islam is HARD from HARD hearted leaders . A man in Afghanistan is in jail today because he converted to Christianity from Muslim and may get the death sentence,the newspaper report didn't mention that he was converted 16 years ago overseas and came back to Afghanistan for holidays and everyone ,including relatives, police and jailers want to cut him into little pieces for his Christian belief.Sharia law ! WE are praying for mercy for our brother in Christ please do that too. ALL we read and see about Islam is bad ,terror,hate,revenge and strife. In Isaiah OT CH 43 v 10 we read that GOD said, "Before Me there was no God formed ,nor shall ther be after ME". Verse 11 He says,"I even I am the Lord and besides Me there is no Saviour". SO where did allah come from 4,400 years after this was written. He cannot be the one true God .So he is a false god. A counterfeit. Posted by dobbadan, Thursday, 23 March 2006 10:21:33 PM
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Time to invoke Godwin's Law:
"As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1." The standard convention is that, once such a comparison has been made (in this case by dobbadan), the thread has ended and the point of view of the person who mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost the debate. You should apologise to your fellow Muslim-haters, dobbadan, for letting them down. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law Posted by MikeM, Friday, 24 March 2006 7:37:12 AM
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Dobadan, there you go again telling the truth, you tell us a story to blame Muslims,"manufactured truth" what about another true story your mates say never happened , it is about a man who was crucified, it would be hard to blame the Muslims for executing Jesus because they were not around, otherwise they would have been blamed, maybe the newspaper you got your information from ,belongs to the same God Club that accused , condemned and crucified Jesus.
Posted by mangotreeone1, Friday, 24 March 2006 7:46:14 AM
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MikeM,
I was replying to this comment. "Western banks pay interest on deposits and charge interest on loans, but under Islamic law (and some interpretations of Christianity-based law) charging interest is usury and is forbidden." Jesus view about interest on loans given to workers Matthew 25:14-28 where they retain the investments growth. Christianity primarily condemns attitudes of slothfulness, greed, theft and extortion - not productive financial growth (interest). Your quote of Matthew rather shows Jesus view toward greed and a secular use of the Holy Temple. Levies had been applied to Temple sacrifices by the Romans to raise money to build a water viaduct some 30 miles into Jerusalem. It was the use of the Temple to raise money for secular projects designed by Rome that Jesus objected too because of their abuse of worshippers with excessive taxes. Jesus separated between secular and spiritual and saw the robbing of the poor worshippers as extortion. Hence His anger toward Roman tax collectors! Pilate crucified several hundred Jews who protested paying this tax. Matthew was a former tax collector and records this event and much of Jesus view of money. Mike you have deliberately distorted my view that one law must apply equally for Muslims as for all Australians by this ridiculous emotive comment: "No room for Sharia law in Australia? Then should we forcefeed Muslims with pork, torch Muslim-owned restaurants that do not serve alcohol or permit customers to bring their own, close down halal slaughterhouses, confiscate banking licenses from banks offering Sharia-compliant products, tear headscarves from heads of Muslim women who choose to wear them and deny divorce to Muslim couples whose marriage has broken down and who have been separated for a year?" Peter Costello was exactly right - we cannot have sectional religious laws applied in Australia, advantaging some over others. Those that cannot live under Australian laws should seek countries with laws with their compatibility. We cannot have one unified Nation divided by enclave separated by sectional laws. Muslims are here to enforce Shari'ah upon all nations, they will not relent until it happens. Example: <http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/1384188.html?view=print> Posted by Philo, Friday, 24 March 2006 7:58:35 AM
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Christians do NOT have to regard David as being a great man......Jews might, but take it up with them. Also, Hitler was definitely anti-Christian in his later statements....you're quoting from his earlier statements