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By Gary Brown, published 10/3/2006The key is tolerance: let them go to hell, if that’s their destiny in your view, in their own way.
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Posted by GZ Tan, Sunday, 12 March 2006 8:45:52 AM
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dobbadan, whatever Buddhism is, there is no philosophy in the teaching of the Buddha. Based on his own experiential knowledge, he taught the truth of suffering and how to come out of, and how each one of us could pursue that through our own efforts, developing our own wisdom, not depending on external teaching, philosophy or dogma. In 45 years of teaching, he refused to be drawn into philosophical discussion. Nor did he teach reincarnation, which implies a continuing entity, a soul or whatever, something permanent, when self-observation reveals that all is change, nothing is permanent.
Boaz, you are well-meaning and I think I’ve got through to you once or twice, but in general you’re too blinkered to make a dialogue worthwhile. Yes, I was raised as a Christian (I abandoned it when I was13), my understanding of Christ’s teaching was much enhanced by practising Vipassana, but my understanding of “the Kingdom of Heaven lies within you” must be far away from yours. It sounds from your quote as if Jesus was telling his disciples that they had to overcome attachment, non-attachment of course does not mean putting aside love for others, it leads to overflowing loving-kindness which is not based on ego or attachment, which is unselfish, undemanding, nonjudgmental, and of course not confined to your family. Posted by Faustino, Sunday, 12 March 2006 10:40:40 AM
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AMSADL, Narcissist, and pegasus. I have posted links to statistics and documentation. Note, Islamic organisations in Europe recognise a disproportionate representation of Islamic men in rape agianst local christian girls. http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html .
(I will not be surprised if the LEFTISTS suggest the Muslim organistions are racist to Muslims for recognising statistics and cultural clashes). You LEFTISTS are the enemy of Australia, Australian women, and integration. I invite you to browse the GOVERNMENT STATISTICS published in reputable European NEWSPAPERS. '... police statistics, revealed that in 68% of all rapes committed this year the perpetrator was from an ethnic minority.' AND 'Muslim organisations have now formed an alliance to fight the ever-growing problem of young second and third-generation immigrants involved in rape cases against young Danish girls' -http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62605.html 'Over the last 5-10 years there has an increasing tendency to marginalise and alienate immigrants. As a result, many second generation immigrants have reacted against this through various types of criminal activity, including rape. And if you look at the figures, men with an immigrant background are grossly over-represented, compared to the proportion of the population they make up' – Professor Flemming Balvig, a criminologist at Copenhagen University. http://www.cphpost.dk/get/62173.html backed up by a 1998 Justice Ministry survey on crime, which found that immigrants were over-represented by an average of 46 per cent, [and] recent publication of a report from the Copenhagen police shows that 47.5 per cent of prisoners on remand for serious crimes such as murder, attempted murder and rape come from immigrant backgrounds. 'Two out of three charged with rape in Norway's capital are immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study.' - http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article190268.ece AND, 'While 65 percent of those charged with rape are classed as coming from a non-western background, this segment makes up only 14.3 percent of Oslo's population. Norwegian women were the victims in 80 percent of the cases. - Police Inspector Gunnar Larsen of Oslo's Vice, Robbery and Violent crime. http://www.aftenposten.no/english/local/article190268.ece http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/07/norwegian-government-covering-up.html Posted by Thor, Sunday, 12 March 2006 2:04:09 PM
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The Norwegian newspaper Dagbladet reported that 65 percent of rapes of Norwegian women were performed by "non-Western" immigrants –
A CATEGORY THAT, IN NORWAY, CONSISTS MOSTLY OF MUSLIMS. The article quoted a professor of social anthropology at the University of Oslo (note: her name is Unni Wikan - a MUSLIM) as saying that "Norwegian women must take their share of responsibility for these rapes" because Muslim men found their manner of dress provocative. The professor's conclusion was not that Muslim men living in the West needed to adjust to Western norms, but the exact opposite: "Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it." - http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/07/norwegian-government-covering-up.html LET ME POINT OUT THE ISLAMIST RESPONSE ONCE MORE, 'Norwegian women must realize that we live in a multicultural society and adapt themselves to it'. Yes, the Islamist response IS defended by LEFTISTS. LEFTISTS are the enemy of Australia, Australian women, and integration. Posted by Thor, Sunday, 12 March 2006 2:12:47 PM
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Thor you left out capitalists. They demand immigration because it makes us more 'competitive'! Judging by your rape stats, this is the kind of competitiveness we don't need.
Posted by davo, Sunday, 12 March 2006 2:42:35 PM
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Faustino,
Thanks, mate, for the acknowledgement concerning the far more glorious earlier days of Islam, helped very much of course not only by the fact, that Mahomet's followers had overrun the centre of Middle Eastern learning of the time, but also that Alexander the Great's followers had introduced Golden Age Greek Philosophy into the area. The Great Library of Alexandria, even well before AD, was attended by peoples even as far away as India. But sadly, during early AD, Christians regarded such teaching as pagan and evil, later destroying much of the Great Library which had held priceless readings and exhibits of early Greek learning. It is so historically interesting that the early Islamics set about rebuilding the Library, treasuring what was left, especially the more scientific exhibits. As already mentioned, most of the Middle Eastern peoples whom Mahomet overran, were non-barbarian, different to over the Alps where most of our present Western peoples are descended from. Right now, it is the Islamics who are in a Dark Ages, forced that way like the early Christians into an escapist lust for the afterlife, brought on by us former barbarians now so over-lusty with scientific knowledge first began by the Greeks and accepted by Mahomet's followers, but we are now using it to belittle those historical followers, who had the insight at the time not to destroy but to pass them on to the peoples who now have command of this globe. But going by what is happening on our globe at present, we only wish that the advances in technology might also give us leaders with much more acumen and understanding in historical knowledge, rather than the crude barbarian frontier- style activity we are being presented with at present. Not only in politics, but also in our trickle-down style economics Posted by bushbred, Sunday, 12 March 2006 2:57:16 PM
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Here is a video URL posted by dobbadan to another thread (article=4133#34474)
http://switch5.castup.net/frames/20041020_MemriTV_Popup/video_480x360.asp?ai=214&ar=1050wmv&ak=null
Or access from Ali Sina's faithfreedom:
http://www.faithfreedom.org