Fellow_Human,

Your example to explain the co-existence of Australian and Shariah laws amounts to this:

-> If X is true ( where X = Agreement on wills)
-> then Y is false ( Y = Go to court )

Unfortunately for you, instead of illustrating co-existence of two laws, you actually proved that shariah laws are INDEPENDENT of Australian laws.

Further, your reasoning was inadequate because you failed to consider the other possibilities, such as:

-> If X is false ( where X = Agreement on wills)
-> then Y is true ( Y = Go to a court )

Also, your argument is similar to this scenario:

-> If X is true ( where X = No one commits a death penalty crime. ie good behaviour )
-> then Y is false ( Y = Give death penalty )

But according to your reasoning, the conclusion would be a ridiculous one:- Australia death penalty can co-exists with personal good behaviour.

Whereas the truth is :- death penalty is INDEPENDENT of personal good behaviour.

Just like I mentioned in my earlier post, your argument about 'Personal' shariah laws... is like saying :- Death penalty is acceptable in Australia ( because no-one commits a death penalty crime in any case).

So congratulation to you for an explanation that refuted your position rather than supporting it.

Hence your personal shariah laws are nothing more than illegal 'backyard' laws, useful for bullying other family members into submission. They certainly DO NOT co-exist with Australian laws.

Yes, just like I said, a pack of Muslim pseudo-intellects indeed.

( Have anyone heard from Jamilla Hussain, the Anglo-Irish author who is a pride and joy of Islam conversion ?? )

Arjay

I know that you are having a lend of me. Good one!

Benjamin

I think your point about polygamy is spot on.

Questions to all:

* How come, when OLO posters challenge people of Islamic faith re Mohommed's evil acts, such as paedophilia - Muslim OLO contributors never seem to deny same?

* Why don't OLO Christians and Islamists accept that there is another viewpoint of God, life, and the world we live in? Life for all of us would be much easier if they did. Both groups claim their religion is peaceful - yet most of the postings from these groups are very aggressive, flaming, stereotypical and downright black and white. The world is grey for goodness sake.

Cheers all
Kay

The Sickness of a Sharia shaped mind

Why refer to this faith as a ‘sickness’ ? The best illustration is probably in the ‘mindset’ of a Muslim woman.

Note the thinking processes of Hanifeh, wife (number 1.. the official one) of Kaysar Trad. .

“ It has not been easy and they remember 1998 as their worst year when Trad fell in love - "became obsessed", his wife says - with another woman. In desperation, Hanifeh proposed marriage on her husband's behalf to the other woman.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/10/01/1033283486605.html <=PLEASE READ

See her response to him ‘becoming obsessed with another woman” ? ‘SHE proposed MARRAIGE to the other woman !

Does this not strike most of us at best ‘odd’ ? I don’t know any women who will do other than FREAK OUT at their unfaithful husbands over such a thing !

Lets analyze this further.

“He” ....”falls in love” with this other woman.

What does this tell us about his love for Hanifeh ? Does she fulfill him ? Does she satisfy him ?
How can this be possible, because he is OBSESSED WITH ANOTHER !

So, his actions are an ongoing insult to Hanifeh, a living daily reminder of her inadequacy as a wife and a woman. YET.. her response is to ‘propose marraige on behalf of her adulterous husband ’ to this adulterous woman, for which the penalty under Islam is ‘stoning’.

Is it not ‘adultery’ to have feelings of desire towards one other than ones wife ?

Jesus said “If a man so much as LOOKS at a woman with lust in his heart, he has ALREADY committed adultery with her.

That pretty much describes 100% of us here including me.

This man, is a ‘spokesperson’ for the Islamic community, (he tells us) and he also says he is trying to inculcate ‘Islamic values’ into their NINE children.

If he simply recognized the sin of his own life, no one would be yelling like I am now, but when he actually JUSTIFIES such action GOD says:

“Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil” Isaiah 5.2

No Kalweb,I wasn't having a go at you,it was the fanatic fundies.Are they smart enough to see the parallels?

"Like I suspected, there is no such thing as a Muslim intellect, which is a contradiction in terms. Muslims are at best PSEUDO-intellect, something that's proven again and again. " Posted by GZ Tan

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It stands to reason that anyone unfortunate enough to be infected with the teddy (god) mind virus has lost all claims to be an intellect. It's possible to refer to these infected types as simply scholars in a given branch of knowledge such as found within a religious playpen where there is much rote learning.

BD

I have read the link re Keysar Trad. Sickening.
See ya
Kay