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The myths and realities of Islam’s Shariah law : Comments

By Jamila Hussain, published 2/3/2006

The Shariah system of personal law can co-exist with the Australian legal system.

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Yes, here is an example of Muslims in Australia calling for Shria law

http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/005631.php

Muslim leaders want a separate Islamic court in Australia to deal with Islamic divorces
"Muslim leaders' divorce proposal," from the Australian Daily Telegraph, with thanks to all who sent this in:

MUSLIM leaders want to set up a separate Islamic court in Australia to deal specifically with Islamic divorces.
The radical idea was raised by Muslim leaders in a meeting with Citizenship and Multicultural Affairs Minister Peter McGauran last week.

But Mr McGauran and Attorney-General Phillip Ruddock yesterday rejected the idea.

"The law in this country is secular. There's a clear separation between religion and the law and Australia's laws apply equally to all citizens, regardless of their religion," Mr McGauran said.

A spokeswoman for Mr Ruddock added: "It would not be appropriate for the Government to establish a separate religious court."

But the Government said it was sensitive to problems experienced by Muslims, particularly those with dual citizenship who seek a divorce.

Muslim Women's National Network spokeswoman Jamila Hussain said a divorce was only recognised under Islamic law when the husband says "I divorce you".

A Muslim woman may obtain a civil divorce under Australian law but she cannot remarry if her husband refuses to grant her a religious
divorce.
Posted by jeremy29, Friday, 3 March 2006 3:05:15 PM
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Aziliz:You show yourself as a prize ignorant twit when it comes to the Bible.
F_Human: You seem to know as much about the Bible as you claim to know about your pagan moslem terrorist handbook -the koran [what else] numbat
Posted by numbat, Friday, 3 March 2006 3:09:49 PM
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Numbat, I just looked up the bible passages quoted by fh and aj, and sure enough, there they are.
And yet, instead of answering, you resort to name calling.
Not particularly constructive now, is it?
Not particularly persuasive either.

Fundamentalism - that of taking the exact literal word of either the bible or the koran - is offensive to most Australians, and should rightly be railed against.

But instead of useless name calling, perhaps it would be more useful to find out what the modern interpretations are that operate in the various Australian Muslim faiths (there are certainly plenty across the plethora of Christian entities).

Ranting against old fundamentalist Islam, while certainly easy enough, doesn't really accomplish much. Find out what the dominant Australian Muslim faith says today, and if you don't like it, rant against that instead.
Posted by Alpal, Friday, 3 March 2006 4:06:29 PM
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I have question for Kalweb.Quote " This article is akin to being half pregnant."

Pardon my ignorance Kalweb,but does this mean that the foetus is deformed and thus is rejected by the body or does it simply mean that it is impossible to be half pregnant?

Just another question to display my male ignorance;Does menopause mean a pause from men or is it relief from fundamentalist urges of spontaneous rage caused by the threatened implosion of our personal belief systems?

I'm getting all hot and sweaty just thinking about the answers.
Posted by Arjay, Friday, 3 March 2006 5:33:30 PM
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At least Jamila Hussein has the guts to lay it all out on the table, I mean, most Islamic academics are too embarressed to even admit they support it in public.

Still though, and I knew quite a bit about Sharia practice before reading this article, for a human being, a rational organism, to believe that this barbaric, sickening code of mafia thuggery - not law, could sit side by side with the civilised legal systems of the western world, is attrocious.

Absolutely attrocious.

On reading that Hussein is merely an Anglo-Australian convert made me laugh as well, as I doubt the REAL Islamic scholars, the Ayatollah Khoemeini's and such would allow, as she says, for the truly barbaric aspects of the Sharia to be reinterpreted.

I'm glad to see most posts here are rational people, who would never accept such a system gaining popularity in Australia.

As for her claims about Sharia giving women rights, it's interesting to note that the Sharia experiment in Canada, which has recently been shut down, was opposed mainly by Muslim women.

Now all we need is to get Muslims to swear an oath that Mohammed was really a Jew if they also don't want to impose Sharia on us, and once they admit it, brand them Islamofascists - the NAZI's of the 21st century. Well, no, Muslims who support Sharia always were Nazi's.
Posted by Benjamin, Friday, 3 March 2006 5:52:32 PM
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Moreover, for Jamila Hussein to actually desire such a system, not only is she ill, for women are considered half the worth of a male within a Sharia court, but it effectively means that she thinks non-Muslims are dirt.

Anyone who knows anything about Sharia knows that the testimony of non-Muslims is worth nothing against a Muslim, and that, under Sharia regulations, Christians can't build churches, display religious symbols, and face death for preaching in public. For a religion that treats outsiders so cruel, it's annoying that they make so many demands of our secular society.

This may not sound very nice, but I believe that a lot of Anglo-converts take to Islam because they are overweight and fancy a bedsheet covering them instead of being looked at as an object.

But this is where I get really angry, because Islam, far from being what it's followers claim, actually is the ONLY religion which TRULY GIVES IN TO MAN'S DESIRES.

It is Islam that allows polygamy & unlimited temporary (read wealthy Gulf state Arabs travelling to Pakistan to rape 9-10 year old virgins) marriages. It is Islam that sanctions murder of enemies, killing has always been a passion of men, at least Christianity forbids it. And don't give me that defensive jihad crap, we have educated ourselves about Islam. We know about how the Prophet slaughtered a Jewish tribe & took the women for slave-girls.

It is Islam that tells it's followers that heaven is A BROTHEL AND A BOTTLE-SHOP. Rivers of wine and houris virgins.

Your all fighting a losing battle, I predict that by the end of this century, although it will be bloody, only because we've given the Islamic world western technology, Islam will be extinct.

Even if the Taliban state were the only humans on earth, eventually, women would fight for their rights, and democracy would follow.

It is HUMAN INSTINCT TO BE FREE.

Once again, I'm disgusted, appalled, that anybody could try to compare the sick, Islamist Sharia, to the legal systems of the CIVILISED west.

Go and cry.
Posted by Benjamin, Friday, 3 March 2006 6:06:35 PM
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