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The myths and realities of Islam’s Shariah law : Comments
By Jamila Hussain, published 2/3/2006The Shariah system of personal law can co-exist with the Australian legal system.
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Posted by meredith, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 7:39:11 PM
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Quote, "Islam: Cult or Religion?
Faith Freedom, By Ali Sina "Islam is known as the second largest religion. The very fact that 1.2 billion people call themselves Muslims vests Islam with the mantel of legitimacy and confirms the claim that it is a religion. But is it? Can 1.2 billion people be wrong? Well, in logic we have something called "argumentum ad numerum". It states that something is true if a lot of people believe in it. But argumentum ad numerum is a logical fallacy. Truth cannot be established by the consensus of the majority. In fact many arguments have been proven to be false, even though everyone in the world once accepted them as true. For example, not until a few centuries ago everyone believed that the Earth is flat and is at the centre of the universe. Despite that common belief both geocentricity and the idea of the flat Earth were false. A false belief does not become true even if everyone thinks they are true. Therefore, not only 1.2 billion people, but the entire mankind can be wrong. As Bertrand Russell said: “The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible.” (Source) After shattering the myth of argumentum ad numerum, let us put Islam under scrutiny and see whether it is a religion or a cult.........." He then lists the characteristics of a cult and compares Islam to this list." At http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50218.htm Posted by Philo, Tuesday, 14 March 2006 8:28:56 PM
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This is an outage!! I feel Muslims are after my 9-year-old daughter... as FH wrote to me : "....until one of your kids becomes Muslim."
Did anyone tell FH I have a 9-year old? I fear for my little girl. You can take a man away from a mountain but you can NEVER take the Mohammed out of a Muslim man. Mohammed said: "And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism), and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah alone...." In a similar vein, FH said (paraphrased): "Islam is here to stay (ie. I will fight you GZ until you believe)... keep denying it (ie. nothing you GZ can do)... until one of your kids becomes Muslim (ie. your 9 year old daughter will be mine.)" FH, I do not believe in SHARIAH LAWS so I'll spare you the death penalty even if you touch my little one. But if I have my way, your punishment will include surgical grafting of a piece of pig skin (tatooed with words "Pigs are Beautiful") onto your body, to be followed by application of a thick layer of pork fat ointment on your body. Talking about pigs, actually I had some bacon for dinner last night. Why don't you try some ham and bacon for a change? No ?? Does Allah forbid Muslims to even get close to pigs? Don't be silly. How did Allah created pigs in the first place? Actually, pigs are VERY important to Islam. A true moderation in Islam will no less requires a recognition that pigs are also lovely creatures of God. I think a campaign to 'cuddle-a-pig-a-day' among the Muslims would be necessary to promote Islam moderation and change Muslims prejudice. NOTHING LESS WILL DO. chuckle...chuckle... :D I'm going nut for laughing at such a vile religion founded by a pedophile. Last but not least, a reminder to FH to not go near my daughter !! Remember my threat of a pig-skin graft. ( To find out why you should leave the CULT called Islam:- http://www.faithfreedom.org ) Posted by GZ Tan, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 6:34:36 AM
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Philo
The excerpt I quoted from was written by a Christian, however religious addiction, as you have pointed out, may apply to any faith. I agree entirely. However, I notice you seem to have missed the raison d'etre of my post which is this: Many Christian posters to OLO exhibit all of the symptons of religious addiction. 1. That their belief is the only truth 2. Abuse of others who disagree 3. Denigration of other faiths If you had bothered to read the entire article instead of merely rephrasing what I had written, then perhaps you would understand my point. As a result of these posters addiction, it is virtually impossible to have any meaningful dialogue with any of them. I can effectively communicate with R0bert, Fellow Human, Dawood, Rex, Shonga, Brownwyn and others. These people, though diverse in background, share one thing in common - they do not engage in constant rhetoric of their beliefs nor do they denigrate others. They respond to questions and try to give considered answers. Philo - do you find posts from the likes of Coach, Numbat, Kactuz unnecessarily abusive? If you don't, I can only assume that you approve of their divisive methods. In which case, you do not care if someone exhibits symptoms of religious addiction if they are Christian. BTW - I acknowledge, Philo, that this time you have made a response to a post of mine without recourse to personal insult. Congratulations. Posted by Scout, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 8:26:50 AM
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Philo,
The puzzle for me reading for those writers was not about not about their shallow or lack of understanding of Islam or their intellectula dishonesty (Like Boaz David sometimes). The puzzle I can't figure out is why do they still call themselves "Ali" , "Irshad" , "Salman". I would have thought the first thing they do after 'seeing the light' is to change their names into more fluffy stuff like Madonna, Michael Jackson and Russell Crowe. Also, your 'freedom to bash Muslims' websites never give the 'freedom' to Muslims to defend or discuss their faith. Even new Anglo Muslims like Dawood was shocked to see the 'freedom' in action. GZ Tan, I am trying to think of what type of person will use the hysterical upper case and use things like 'chukles chukles'! I can only think of my daughter's age kids on msn...please refrain from using LOL and PMSL... BRB..I mean...Peace, Posted by Fellow_Human, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 12:03:21 PM
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I always found gammon steaks and bacon to taste a little too sickly sweet for my tastes, but my Dad still eats his bacon sarnies for breakfast every day. Chinese roast pork (char siu) tastes much better, but I prefer the roast duck.
Just because we can't consume things from pigs does not mean that we believe they should be eradicated from the face of the earth, or even that they are necessarily vile creatures. I have no idea where you get your ideas on Islam from, certainly not those who are educated in their religious tradition. I remember seeing the young child of one of my friends so happy to touch all the animals at a "kid's farm", including the pigs, which he didn't expect to be hairy. This was at the Easter Show last year, and I am sure the same will happen this year too. Plenty of Muslims around enjoying time with their families, and also plenty giving their kids the experience of the farm animals the same as everyone else. Posted by dawood, Wednesday, 15 March 2006 1:01:07 PM
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Sure you can wake up feeling like u are the "nice guy"... but now the racist card, due to deceitful over use by the PC, is dead what about people who really need it?
Why is being a victim nut job so good for people? Bigger dole checks?
You PCers have a lot to answer for