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'Munich' and moral equivalence : Comments

By Colin Andersen, published 2/2/2006

Colin Andersen reviews Steven Speilberg's film 'Munich'.

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Steve42,
The two sides issues will not wash- Israel is occupying Palestinians and ignoring the UN, Interntaional law and all human rights bodies.....not the other way around.

The onus is on the agressor to stop....not the victim to lie down and accept it.

Besides anything else, Hamas gave up arms for the last year...Israel did not. Many Palestinians were killed by their occupiers...and of course the homes and crops destroyed, whilst Jews-only towns continue to be build on the little land left for the indigenous people.

I do not have time to go over the same facts every time....but this is not an issue about 2 sides fighting each other; it would be if they were 2 countries fighting each other with equal weaponry.

This is an issue about colonization and ethnic cleansing. The fact that Palestinians are resisting this should be no surprise; human beingsa have been fighting oppression as long as we have been on this earth.
Posted by sunisle, Monday, 6 February 2006 4:32:49 AM
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Thank you, thank you, thank you, Plantagenet. The inability of trendoids to even perceive the fundamental contradictions of their own logic was once parodied by George Orwell in his book "1984."

Your last post just provided a perfect specimen of this phenomenon. You lambasted a poster on his racism, and then displayed that you have exactly the same attitude yourself towards Germans.

Wow. I am impressed.
Posted by redneck, Monday, 6 February 2006 5:25:39 AM
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Herr Friedrich,

Za link below proovs u rong!

http://www.pcbs.org/_pcbs/arab_st/soc8_1.aspx
Palestinan Bureau of Statistics found on google search:
Total young palestinians enrolled in public and private schoold around 700,000 (male to female students ratio 51:48)
That makes it one of the highest according to population and the living conditions they are put in.

Tell me Fuhrer, vood u zend ur kidz to za school ven u liv in ze tent viz ur wif on von dolar per day?

Can you at least research the topic before pausing as an intellect?
Posted by Fellow_Human, Monday, 6 February 2006 9:11:26 AM
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FRIEDRICH and (your assistant) redneck

Note “FRIEDRICH” carries his “race” on his sleeve by putting his very German name in CAPITALS.

FRIEDRICH repeating what you said on Sunday, 5 February 2006 9:40:49 AM

"You can converse with a jew. They wash, shave(except the ones with long beards),clean their teeth, polish their shoes, don't fantazise about their first cousins, leave little boys alone. The USA is run by jews..."

redneck what you have decided to characterise as “lambasted” was my comment then question to FRIEDRICH which was:

“Its slowly coming out. To characterise a race, even if "positive" is racist - a sad thing. What part of (Greater) Germany did your ancestors come from mate?”

redneck - “lambasted” are you being dishonest?

One reason I’m interested in this issue is that I lived for 2 years in northern Germany at the then British military base at Falingbostel, near Hanover. This camp was around 15 km from the Belsen concentration camp – where many of the newsreels of dead and dying Jews came from.

Germans had a particular “attitude” to Jews in Belsen. I’m not saying that setting Jews apart is restricted to Germans. Its widely held particularly in central European countries and even amongst Australians.

As I said before “positive” comments still set Jews apart – this is unhelpful because it is wilfully generalising about a diverse group of people held together loosely by a religion. Some of these people look like Arabs, Germans, Russians or English etc. The same could be said of Muslims, but this is, of course, counter to the beliefs of many posters on this thread.

FRIEDRICH if your “positive” comments are a way to set Jews apart (and be doing so set them up – in order to be knocked down) then for want of a better term this is racism.

Now I suspect that you aren’t concerned about the racist tag.

Maybe your gripe is that it was primarily the resources of the US “run by jews” that beat Germany (a country your capitalised name loudly proclaims) in Hitler’s War.

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 6 February 2006 12:21:19 PM
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Reason,

I am a Christian(not a very good one apparently).

plantagenet,

Richard Perle Jew
Paul Wolfowitz Jew
Douglas Feith Jew
Edward Luttwak Jew
Dov Zakheim Jew
Kenneth Adelman Jew
Lewis Libby Jew
Robert Satloff Jew
Elliott Abrams Jew
Marc Grossman Jew

The list is a lot longer. Give me the go ahead.
Posted by FRIEDRICH, Monday, 6 February 2006 1:20:37 PM
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Onya FREIDRICH

OLO posters (eg rightwingers, "Christians" etc) should always be aware what they are allied to - as reflected in what you just wrote above.

For the sake of relevance to "Munich". Mossad is widely respected in the intelligence community for being on the ball (having good contacts) and taking action, usually against those Muslims who are terrorists.

Pete
Posted by plantagenet, Monday, 6 February 2006 2:12:14 PM
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