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'Munich' and moral equivalence : Comments

By Colin Andersen, published 2/2/2006

Colin Andersen reviews Steven Speilberg's film 'Munich'.

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Colin Anderson's critique of the movie "Munich" is the second critique that I have read. The first critique was from a Jewish journalist who attacked the movie for it's total lack of historical accuracy. That journalist pointed out that the real life leader of the Mossad assassination teams sent to kill the leaders of the terrorist/ freedom fighters, (choose your own applicable) was not in the least purturbed by any moral qualms.

I personally think that the Jewish journalist had a very good point. Movie producers should stop presenting fiction as historical fact.

But Colin Anderson criticises the movie for it's moral equivalence. Colin is obviously a supporter of the Islamic domination of Palestine/Israel, and he attacks the notion that Israeli's could be presented in any way which might suggest that the presense of Israel has any validity.

Now Colin's viewpoint may strike a chord in the readership of the Green Left weekly, but his logic would hardly impress the readership of mainstream newspapers. Such readers might be impressed by Speiberg's even handed approach to the moral equivalence of the Israeli and Palestinian causes.

Colin Anderson attempts to justify his view that there is no moral equivalence between Israel and Palestine, by trotting out the usual stories of atrocities and oppression. What he fails to understand is that most readers are fully aware that what he says may be true, but that they are also aware that the Israeli's can do exactly the same thing.

For forty years, the Palestinains have done everything they could do, to drive Western public opinion to favour the Israeli's. Olympic athletes have the status of emmissaries. And civilised societies, even those at war, consider them untouchable. For the Palestinains or their supporters to now claim that the presumed moral supremancy of their own cause should have been highlighted in any movie about "Munich", is more worthy of hilarity than serious consideration.
Posted by redneck, Sunday, 5 February 2006 7:18:16 AM
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My goodness Freidrick- what a lot of racial stereo-types. You seem to have everyone catagorized into racial and religious groups...good guys and bad guys.

Perhaps if you take the time to think, you will realise that human beings are more alike than unalike. If the Jewsih people from Europe had come and taken let's say- Texas- and either massacred or driven into refugee camps in other countries...would the people of Texas would have taken it lying down?

A powerful well-equipped Palestinian military occupying, stealing land and murdering Israelis with impunity is not happening; the
reverse is.

And Redneck, Colin's view has a much wider appeal- because it is a just and fair one; it is also the view of many Israelis, who are ashamed of their country's disregard for human rights and the rule of law. Try reading European newspapers.

Yes, back to the movie. There are uninformed people who will view this as "real". Unfortunately, and interestingly, Spielberg never mentions the 1948 massacres and diaspora of the Palestinian people. Neither does he show that Mossad got it wrong in Norway; they murdered a man,in front of his pregnant wife, who had no connection to Munich. If Spielberg were being fair he would have shown the life inflicted on the Palestinians before Munich ...and the total apathy of the powerful nations to their plight.

When Spielberg starts making movies about what has, and is still , happening to Palestinians he can be considered fair. Let's face it, this is happening as we speak; "Schindlers List" is not.
Posted by sunisle, Sunday, 5 February 2006 9:08:05 AM
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sunisle,

You spelt my name incorrectly.

Palestinians are mostly uneducated. I do however applaud them on ability to throw rocks and to wear towels around their unshaven faces.
By the way is it a sin to shave over there?

Whilst you despise jews at least they are educated. You can converse with a jew. They wash, shave(except the ones with long beards),clean their teeth, polish their shoes, don't fantazise about their first cousins, leave little boys alone.

The USA is run by jews. Your friends are on a rock throwing hiding to nothing.
Posted by FRIEDRICH, Sunday, 5 February 2006 9:40:49 AM
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FRIEDRICH

"You can converse with a jew. They wash, shave(except the ones with long beards),clean their teeth, polish their shoes, don't fantazise about their first cousins, leave little boys alone.

The USA is run by jews..."

Its slowly coming out. To characterise a race, even if "positive" is racist - a sad thing.

What part of (Greater) Germany did your ancestors come from mate?

Plantagenet
Posted by plantagenet, Sunday, 5 February 2006 12:35:13 PM
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Friedrich, I wish to ask again (please hold your tongue BD)...

Are you a Christian? Can you justify your position if you are? Can you point to legitimate religious doctrine that supports your beliefs?

If not, you are no Christian, no matter what coat you claim to where.
Posted by Reason, Sunday, 5 February 2006 1:00:58 PM
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Unfortunately the Israeli vs Palestinian struggle tends to drag most people down to that level. It's such a tempting debate to work out who is the most justified in killing the other. It's so easy to give way to hate and just follow one's passion without thinking.

It requires much more courage to unilaterally put down your arms and try to prevail with reason. Especially when the other party keeps shooting/bombing you. Yet that is what must happen before both parties find peace.

Can either side do this? It doesn't look promising from where I sit.

But thank goodness for people like Steven Spielberg who has the courage to call a spade a spade. Murder is murder whether it's done by Israeli's or Palestinians. No difference.
Posted by steve42, Sunday, 5 February 2006 9:51:39 PM
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