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By Jason Falinski, published 28/12/2005Jason Falinski argues the Sydney riots were the result of government welfare policies which removed hope.
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Posted by Sebby259, Friday, 30 December 2005 12:31:00 PM
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lots Sebby, heaps and heaps of them
check this out it helps explain why http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=3999 Posted by meredith, Friday, 30 December 2005 12:34:22 PM
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Excellent post, Rainier.
Vinny, you "watch many american cop shows" I'm impressed! ..."and the attitude is totally different......they aren't affraid to draw their guns and use them if their threatened by penisheads or use brutal force when faced by uncoperative retards. the message soon gets out to the criminals and if any of them decide to retaliate against police or shoot up police stations the response from the cops would be bloody and brutal.......and the cops wwill always win because they have the law on their side." I doubt very much whether US crime statistics would support the point you are trying to make, Vinny. With its prison industry flourishing and millions of its citizens in gaol, America has been described as "the world's leading incarceration state" - it's tough on crime and uses the death penalty where it can, yet I can't imagine its streets being any safer than ours. Over thirty million Americans live in poverty and no amount of cops and robbers will change that, just as no amount of upping the ante on law and order here will change the situation for marginalised groups in our society. Posted by Bronwyn, Friday, 30 December 2005 1:22:05 PM
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Much of Australia's problems are being caused by ineffectual government , it seems to me that this country is being treated as the world's doormat and the government is too frightened to stop the rot in case we lose trade.....or something.
In the north we have foreign fishermen taking our fish, they have fished their own ocean without restraint until there was nothing left , now they are doing the same here. The government does nothing. In the south, the japanese whalers are making merry with the whales that have managed a comeback after nearly being driven to extinction. The government does nothing. We are allowing immigration of totally unsuitable people who , not understanding democracy, will never assimilate into this country. Bringing tribal people into a western society is asking for trouble,the results are now being made apparent, the government sits back and permits it to go on. Who else is to blame? Posted by mickijo, Friday, 30 December 2005 1:43:49 PM
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Sebby259,unfortunately there will be a lot more covering up of crime by those who have been pushing the "Multicultural Barrow"There is a surrepticious movement by the left to give absolute power to all the cultural minority groups.They are self deprecating Anglo hating radicals that want to over turn the present status quo.
All ordinary Australians want is a say in the quality of immigrant that comes to this country regardless of colour. Multiculturalism is about divide and conquer.We can have a more intergrated and less racist society if people come here under our terms and not to roam our suburbs in an orgy of lawlessness. The Multicultural lobby is extremely powerful and is backed by a lot of Federal and State funds ,not to mention the legions of left wing journalists. The ideal of Multiculturalism has failed in in France and we are seeing it fail here.We are not proposing excluding other cultures from coming here,we just want to stipulate the terms and have a say in the quality of immigrant that come here. The present Federal Govt are just as ignorant to what is happening in Sydney since John Howard blamed France's problems on lack of IR reforms and said it wouldn't happen here. It is going to be a long hard battle because most of the print media journalists are from the left and have been brainwashed by a very cunning and sneeky Multicultural lobby. The fight has only just begun and they will cover up and lie even more to protect their precious ideals,even if it means all your friends get raped and murdered where the media are not on watch. The Middle Eastern gangs are so powerful that the Police,Govt and even many of their own people are too terrified to critise or act against them.The same scenarios have happened in France but on a far grander scale. Posted by Arjay, Friday, 30 December 2005 2:55:21 PM
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robert, the middle class welfare i am referring to is negative gearing.
It goes like this I borrow a significant sum of money to buy an investment property say $400 000, the interest payments will be between $28000 and $35 000 per annum. I rent it out at $300 per week. I am therefore making a loss of between $13 000 and $20 000 per year. I can then use this loss from my investment to reduce my taxable income. If I am earning between $80 000 -$90 000 then I can reduce my income earnt in the highest tax bracket by between $13 000 and $20 000 effectively reducing my tax paid to the fed govt by between $6000 - $9000. So the Fed Govt (taxpayers or the general public are subsidising my investment. When I sell it in 5-7 years time I would only pay approximately 25% tax on the capital gain. These arrangements are costing $7 billion a year. What needs to be changed is losses from investments can only be written off against the same investment class. Therefore the losses from the interest payments would be limited to being written off against the earnings from the rental. The taxation system is designed to encourage investment from debt rather than equity raisings and the public is subsidising it. Posted by slasher, Friday, 30 December 2005 3:29:27 PM
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I haven't heard a goddamn thing about this in the press. I wonder how many other assaults are covered up..