PART II

Bruce Baird's reply to another Islamic bigot on the program--Fadi Rahman--was a beauty: that THE CRONULLA SHIRE WAS ONE OF THE MOST CHARITABLE IN THE NATION TOWARDS VOLUNTEERING FOR THE SYDNEY OLYMPICS, AND ALSO THE MOST CHARITABLE DURING THE TSUNAMI CRISIS, SPECIFICALLY FOR MUSLIM INDONESIANS, so that they are "racist," as Fadi and friend were demanding, seems to be a misunderstanding.

Whenever we speak of “racism” we think “Anglo” only; THIS MUST CHANGE IF WE ARE EVER TO MOVE FORWARD.

But the West has had highly laudable education programs set up post WWII, and their market system has spread the message of tolerance via 60's pop/rock music, etc. (compare the more recent bigotry of hip hop!). Moreover, having been conditioned by some powerful nazis in the Ministry of Education for the past couple of generations to believe WE are intolerant and racist of Others, Aussies have a deep first-hand conception of what it feels like to be self-critical of their ethnicity, and to even question such things is a huge leap.

It is a more productive strategy, I think, to attack Muslim intolerance not by attacking Islam--for it is silenced as "racism" or similar--but rather by attacking certain "cultural" groups in terms of "racism," "bigotry", or simply "intolerance" alone, and spread this throughout the media, the curriculum, and indeed the Academy, just as was done in regards to Anglo rednecks and nazis.

Multiculturalism bans all criticism of such ethnic minorities precisely because many recent arrivals CAN ONLY CONCEPTUALISE IN TERMS OF THEIR ETHNICITY.

The more Islamic intolerance (i.e. xenophobia) gets articulated not in terms of “Islam”--for everybody cries "racism" or similar--but rather "racism," "bigotry," or "intolerance," which is more acceptable by community standards, the discourse thereby spawned will apply pressure upon Islamic spokespersons to put the violence of their associates in these terms too. In turn, multiculturalism will be seen as being forced BECAUSE the more recent arrivals to this land are way more inclined to intolerance and racism than are the Anglos.

We have in our midst HAIRY-HEAD NEO-NAZIS

Dear Skippy
I was moved at the passion,effort and thought- you put into that 2 part post. Well put. You make some excellent points, particularly the need to attack the manifestations of intolerance from the Leb/Islamic community rather than the ideology of Islam per se.

Any debate on National Identity (which I totally support) should result in our confirming the Anglo/European heritage and prevailing culture, and their need to adapt to it.

As you would observe, I myself am often charged with "My-religion-is-better-than-yours-ism" when I (and Kactuz,Coach and others) point out the flaws in Islam as a faith. My approach is founded though, in the view that unless one can demonstrate the flaws in the foundation, the house will not be able to show the residents that it is an unsafe place to dwell. Both approaches are needed I feel, if just for our own sake as much as theirs.

In scrutinizing their foundations, we also raise questions in the minds of our fellow 'skips' about the foundations of our own cultural heritage of Christianity. There are so many accumulated myths and misrepresentations that its like an onion, many layers, many tears to peel them back to expose the true beauty of knowing God as Christ demonstrated.(as opposed to the oft repeated examples of bad behavior portrayed by an antagonistic secular/leftist media and Hollywood.)

PERICLES
I read up on Mosley, and I found myself recoiling in horror at his direction. You may see some superficial similarities in my expressed views and his, but I assure you, CROMWELL (aside from his rather brutal attacks on some Irish who (under the reprehensible instructions of their nobles) were told 'fight to the last'while they fled to safety)- is the figure of history I would most closely identify with. Mosely was entranced by Hitler and Mussolini, and founded the British society of facists. SHUDDER.... not while Hell remains unfrozen would I have any inclination in Mosely's direction!
Where Cromwell took up arms, I prefer the prophetic approach. Words rather than swords.
DSD chap is just a friend -no big plans, I was namedropping :).

Cromwell, eh? An interesting choice of hero, Boaz.

"From Dublin Cromwell marched north to Drogheda, which was defended by an English Catholic and royalist, Sir Arthur Aston. When his surrender demand was ignored, Cromwell stormed the city and ordered the death of every man in the garrison, describing this as 'a righteous judgment of God upon these barbarous wretches'"

"Priests and friars were treated as combatants by Cromwell's Puritans and executed. Even more horrible was the fate of the defenders of St. Peter's Church in the northern part of the town; the church was burned down around them. By nightfall, only small pockets of resistance on the walls remained."

It is very naive to try and distance the pious parliamentary protestant in London from the vicious killer in Ireland; they are two parts of the same person. It's a bit like saying Osama bin Laden is a fine fellow on the evidence that he loves his mother.

Just a small additional point. Rather than read about Mosley, read Mosley's own words. Then you can get the full flavour of how a highly intelligent man can delude himself into believing that he has the answer, the right answer, the only answer - and in addition, has the gift of oratory to persuades others. The result, in terms of the forces unleashed, is frightening.

You are unfortunately closer than you think to falling into the same trap. Wrapping yourself in a flag may seem to be a solidly patriotic thing to do. Barracking for the surf lifesavers against marauding hordes of foreigners may sound properly manly and Australian. Managing the result can be somewhat more difficult, especially once there have been a few deaths along the way.

Yes Pericles, as I said.. which I'm sure you read, "apart from his brutal treatment of the Irish..."

Regarding Mosely, even though he might have 'gilt edged words' and a silver tongue of oratory, it matters not to me because my primary committment is to Christ, not man. Hence, while I respect mans law to the extent that it reflects Gods law, and where it diverges I use my democratic right to seek to shape it, I really don't see myself in the trenches. (too old)

You referred to 'once it is unleashed' yes.. valid point, but ask yourself this, are my few words unleashing anything or are the actions of an ethnic minority over a 10yr period unleashing something ? I was at the gym 2night, and a fellow member shared with me how he used to live in the centre of Lakemba etc. In 1997 his parents would not let him goto Westfield mall, due to the racist violence against whites. At cronulla beach, he reports that Lebanese men would BLOCK OFF a section where the rock pools are, and 'their' women only could bathe there. In other words, freedom of public association at the beach was unlawfully challenged by an ethnic group, in a blatantly racist way. now, it seems that everyone is allowed to be racist, except 'white' folks, and when they react to racism, 'WHITE RACISTS ATTACK ETHNIC MINORITY' capitals because that is the 'kind of headline thing the BBC came out with the other day.
The simple fact is, our culture has had a declaration of war served on it, and to be blunt, its not on.

Elisha told the Israelites to 'feed the Aramean captives and then free them' They went away peacefully, but came back later to sack the Israelite cities. We could 'feed' the Lebanese, invite them to dinner. They would still sack the city.

Pericles.. read up on the history of the Lebanese civil war...
Think 'key French policy mistakes' and 'demography' We can discuss further

The Sydney riots are just the beginning.
A world war is already simmering, with Muslims clashes against Russia, Europe, Israel, China, India, the USA and Southeast Asia. Once the fighting starts in Europe, it could spread outside the continent and ignite a world war. This is the scenario of "global civil war". It would become the worst and most destructive war in human history, involving nuclear weapons on both sides. It could completely destroy the Middle East and North Africa, deeply damage Europe, the Indian continent, and parts of Southeast Asia, and inflict serious casualties on the USA, Australia and Africa. Its secondary and economic ripples will be felt on all corners of the planet, including the ones least involved in the actual fighting, such as Latin America and East Asia.
When there are outbreaks of Mad Cow Disease, millions of cattle are affected -- the meat from those millions completely quarantined for fear of the results. When travellers, originating in a land known to have an outbreak of a communicable and deadly disease -- typhus, tuberculosis, avian flu, for example, try to enter this or that country, they are often turned away.
If you knew that out of every 100 Muslim immigrants, 1 out of 10, at the very least, the absolute minimum, would be either a participant in terrorist acts or would do nothing to prevent, by warning the police, of such acts -- well, what would you, as an Infidel, like your government to adopt as a sensible policy of minimum self-protection?
And if you agree with me, and with a great many of the defectors from Islam (apostates) who know best what Islam is all about, and how Muslims think, and what they say, behind the backs of Infidels, then you will be convinced that the real number is not 1 out of 10, not 2 out of 10, not 3 out of 10, but far higher.
CONTINUED.

Neither Ibn Warraq, Ali Sina, Azam Kamguian, nor Irfan Khawaja, nor ten thousand other articulate ex-Muslims, get any media attention for their important articulation of what Islam is, and why Muslims need to think, and re-think. Why is this? Why are ex-Muslims, the bravest and clearest-sighted of all those born into Islam, ignored by the media, while only those who stoutly cling to Islam despite the mental and moral compromises they must make and the apologetics and falsities they must necessarily swim in, are feted, fawned over and hailed? Who do the media keep wheeling out? The same old Keysars, Kurandas, Rolands and Waleeds here, and Tariq "Mr. Taqiyya" Ramadan and (Sir) Iqbal Sacranie in Eurabia.
Muslim groups in Australia (and their appeasers on both sides of the political spectrum) and abroad try to tart up Islam into a peaceful, tolerant package. Fortunately the truth continues to escape. They can’t stop it. While they attempt to divert attention away from it by race baiting (When a Muslim torches a church, it's because he feels marginalised. When a white guy torches a mosque, it's racism), name calling, and harassment, slowly but surely, the masses are being enlightened. Truth is not bigotry. Truth is truth.
Anyone who migrates to Australia and is offended by our national symbols, holidays, free speech, or in general the way we run our country is not only disrespectful, but useless to Australia as it moves forward -- as are any politicians/media who coddle them. Islamic migrants who come here and are offended or 'marginalised' by us can blame the ridicule, contempt and scrutiny that they experience only on themselves.
Tolerance goes only so far before it becomes submission. The Arabic word for submission is Islam.