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Sydney’s burning: but why did it happen? : Comments

By Peter West, published 14/12/2005

Peter West examines the causes of the Sydney riots.

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Some corresponence to FDB from Australian (Christians?).

"darp, you really are a mentally defective mongrel. Remember, every dog has it's day and you ol' buddy, are just that DOG. Good idea to keep your head down on Hitlers birthday, actually, probably a good idea to keep it down permanently. The right is getting ever stronger and there is NOTHING you can do to stop it, except for ranting like the neurotic little school kid you are. RAUS JUDEN! (BEN WEERHEYM)
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Darp, ——
It doesn't matter anyhow, I would say that your full address and other personal details will be shown for all to see on the Redwatch Downunder site that is coming together quite nicely. ...

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Ben to an FDB member.

I swear, if you mention that sh*t again. I WILL seriously assault you, I don't care if I go to jail d*ckhead, I will stomp on your f**king head, I couldn't care who reads this, you are a filthy peice of sh*t that deserves to be badly assaulted going on like that. It may not happen straight away but I will store it in my brain for another time. You think I am an evil nazi? I will go out of my way for you to definately think so.
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Threats from Kromlek of Asgard, the main organiser of the White Pride Coalition of Australia.
Hard copy correspondance

Dear fist-f**king, s*it-d*ck scum

I hope I made you choke on that glass of your lover's enema water.

... I relish the prospect of skinning my knuckles on your half-bred head.
You can consider yourself warned that the WPCA lads are an ENTIRELY different prospect and you bring your sh*t to OUR door at your peril. ...?

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Kromlek
Administrator"
So the mono-cultural right is getting "stronger" - who would have figured? (Difference)
Posted by rancitas, Thursday, 15 December 2005 4:27:42 PM
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Not wanting to kmock any online contributors, but a couple of points might help. Firstly, one from an oldie who went to a country school in a weatherboard hall in a wheatbelt town. It was in the late 1920s and attending the little school we had German migrant neighbours on one side, Scots on another and Irish neighbours on the other two sides.

Now at the time in the hall once a month we had the travelling silent pictures or "flicks". Now one of the Irish families including their kids refused to stand up when God Save our Gracious King was played. Later the other Irish family did the same the German family following.

Naturally it got around the school, but it is so interesting that our father shook his head and simply told us not to make a song and dance about it, saying these people are our neighbours and we have to get on together. It was also the days when Afghan teamsters still drove a few wagon teams in the district, never having any trouble mixing with non-Islamics.

Adding to what some of our contributors have mentioned, it all starts with the parents, one could say that it is not always the churchy families that get away Scot free in this respect.

Finally, though not able to remember his name, while doing an adult educational social science elective back in the 1970s, we learnt that there was a certain German professor who believed that it was pressure from the parents that had helped cause the fanaticism of the Hitler Youth Movement, and the later Nazi cruelty. Accordingly this caused social science teachers to recommend that children should not always believe what their parents tell them, and we could well wonder whether that German professor who also wrote a popular text book might have gone too far.

George C, WA, Bushbred
Posted by bushbred, Thursday, 15 December 2005 5:27:22 PM
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I think the problem is that the right is getting stronger. The right wants Australia to be at one with their ideology, with their culture, with their fascism which they see as a superior model.
It won't stop with the easily identified others like ethnic immigrants. It is clearly racism now, but it will trip over into their own particular kind of cultural, ideological and religious suprematism. It has nothing to do with law and order because the behaviour of the radical right confirms this.

The right want a nation where the people are one with their idea of what it is to be Australian. While most Australians agree on the rule of law etc., these mob want us to agree on everything including our religious and cultural leanings.
They must want a monoculture where difference is seen as a crime against nature. It can't happen because there are millions of diverse folk that can't help but be different to others. The diversity of OLO helps to prove this.
The irony is that the rights ideal of an Australia where the people are one is the same as extremist group Al Qaeda who, some agrue, would have a global state where the people are one with Islam. Same monocultural position. The surf life savers bashing was just an excuse for right-wing opportunists to further their agenda. They don't give a toss about the rise of violence on our streets unless there is an ethnic involved.(Vegemite).
Posted by rancitas, Thursday, 15 December 2005 5:46:58 PM
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God bless you bushbred, you brought a tear to my eye with your post. I know exactly what you're talking about.

If only all the other hot heads posting here would get off their unearned high-horses and go stick their heads in a bucket of iced water until they cooled down, the world might just become Australian again.

Bushbred, to you and yours, you have a very merry Christmas mate. Judging by your post, I'm pretty sure you will.

I thank you.
Posted by Maximus, Thursday, 15 December 2005 6:49:07 PM
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samo,

PART I

I couldn't agree with you more on the UTTER INTOLERANCE of those in the community with an identity correlate with ISLAM. However, I think that the truth you speak will have a more positive effect on the minds of all Australians if, rather than articulated in terms of "Islam"--which only induces the reply of "racism" or "intolerance"--it is articulated as much as is practicable in terms of the words "racism," "bigotry," and "intolerance".

Despite Wahlid Ali's fantasy of Islam's wonderful (theoretical?) toleration for others, we had yesterday on SBS 7pm a special hosted by Anton Enus about the gang issue, where Kuranda Seyet (not sure of the spelling), the head of some Islamic body, proposed (i.e. Islam in practice, not theory) as the "solution" for these gang problems that Australia have--brace yourself!--"A DEBATE ON OUR NATIONAL IDENTITY" (this guy also recently complained about Christmas). He basically said that Muslims will forever feel alienated from Australia until we have such a debate. I heard the same view expressed by a talk-back caller the other day.

Where's the ideal of UNIVERSAL TOLERANCE in this? Our European ancestry is what makes us aspire to actualise such an ideal, to forever work towards it:

THAT ONE OUGHT TO HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO AND LIVE AS THEY PLEASE SO LONG AS THEIR ACTIONS DO NOT INFRINGE UPON THE FREEDOM OF OTHERS TO DO THE SAME. INSOFAR AS THEY INFRINGE THIS RIGHT OF OTHERS THEY ACT INTOLERABLY.

Why would we need to change our national identity if at its core is only such a principle of tolerance and democracy? No one is asking Muslims to adopt Aussie "customs," just the universal principles of tolerance and equality coming out of our heritage, the stuff the Reformation gave us.

Such intolerance only reflects what manifests in, for example, arranged marriages or separate swimming sessions, which we in blindness deem a "cultural practice"!! And what of the ethno-specific charity fund-raising during the Tsunami?
Posted by Skippy, Thursday, 15 December 2005 11:46:32 PM
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Middle eastern youth often are violent and intolerant folk. I have bore the brunt of a number of assaults perpetrated by them. By way of background for those who know me on this site, I'm Aussie.
Posted by Inner-Sydney based transsexual, indigent outcast progeny of merchant family, Friday, 16 December 2005 12:23:02 AM
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