tubley
Hav read your post and my stance on CP is still firm. Bring It Back.
Once a Crim allways A crim. Once a killer always a killer. Once a rock spider always a rock spider, get the point. No fancy words or human centiment. Bring back the death penatly.

SHONGA “Col Rouge, and his mad mate redneck, are not only in a tiny paranoid minority, but lack any compassion, common decency, or consideration of their fellow man. ….. in Col Rouge's case, I don't know if a shared background exists, or if stupidity reigns supreme.”

Oh Shonga, I have rallied to meet your petulant outbursts head on and will not be suspended again for challenging you with appropriate invective.

Because we disagree with your “personal view” does not make redneck or I “mad”,“paranoid” nor do you have any basis of assessment, to judge us lacking in any human quality of compassion, decency or consideration. Certainly “stupidity”, if we are to assess such on any commonly applied test of cognitive ability is not an option either.

Beyond your own defective judgement you have nothing to contribute. I would ask – why do you bother – to give vent to you pathetic excuse for personality, which is dominated by what seems to be a malignant ego?

As for “Punishment is meant to teach the criminal a lesson,”
My support goes to second offence drug dealing becomes a capital offence – why?
Because , knowing a second offence is capital and continuing to trade in drugs means the criminal, when “sentenced” on the second offence (and doubtless that is not just the “second offence”) has had opportunity and failed to “learn the lesson” and thus – forfeits the right to participate in a civilised society.

Now Shonga – I seriously suggest you turn down the invective, moderate your language and remember – yours is a solitary view and likely to remain so whilst your ability to “win friends and influence people” remains on par with the bottom of a septic tank.

Oh I see Barry is being targeted by you too – do not be drawn Barry – I would bet Shonga’s opportunity to spout his asinine view on this forum is likely to be curtailed shortly

Col, Your arrogance is breathtaking, petulant, who do you think you are, the Queen of Shieba? I have explained why I hold the opinion I do, I am a Christian, and as such, don't support inhumane, barbaric practises like the death penalty. If your opinion is greater than mine, and you can have me kicked off,do it, that is an indication of your MO. Opress any opposition, to your prehistoric ideas, I still say those who advocate for the death penalty have no compassion for their fellow man, and indeed displays an inner cowardice, and inferiority complex.When we imprison them, we have the opportunity to study them to see what makes them tick, so we may find a gene that will be able to be geneticly modified at birth. Think outside the square gentlemen, and ladies of course.....

Col Rouge, please. Capital punishment is wrong. If you like the idea of killing so much then go and hire some cheap American film where you can watch the 'bad guys' get their heads blown off and the 'good guys' ride off into the sunset and live happily ever after.

I used to be a hateful, spiteful teenager and I believed in capital punishment but then I grew up. Countries grow up too and they learn better ways of handling things. For some countries it takes a little longer.

I am active in encouraging positive change through my work as a teacher and by my support of Amnesty International. I hope you can do something constructive too.

Shonga “Col, Your arrogance is breathtaking, petulant, who do you think you are, the Queen of Shieba?”

You are just not getting the message are you.

If you are claiming to be “Christian” you must have missed whole chunks about tolerance, charity and especially the bit about “love thy neighbour” and turning “the other cheek” – your rebukes of me are infantile and asinine – you parody me as “the Queen of Shieba” – such outbursts are not those I have traditionally associated with those who practice “Christian Values”.

You stated

“I still say those who advocate for the death penalty have no compassion for their fellow man, and indeed displays an inner cowardice, and inferiority complex.”

– boring hyperbole and drivel unsupported by any statistical research – the words “humbug” and “garbage” spring to mind.

I would suggest Read some books land get an education before you write.

As for

“When we imprison them, we have the opportunity to study them to see what makes them tick, so we may find a gene that will be able to be geneticly modified at birth.”

Ah – Eugenics in the making, or maybe selective breeding – both the ideas of megalomaniacs and elitists with small intellects.

Just the stuff for those who want to run roughshod over “Human Rights”.

Your ideas are actually worse than the death penalty – but “playing GOD” would seem to fit with your self-image.

Tubley – disagree – it is a matter of accepting personal responsibility – or not, as the case may be. Locking people up indefinitely (with no possibility of parole) is not nice either.

Oh, re your suggestion, I do many things which are “constructive”, including provide specialist services to prisons. Dealing with criminals is different to “talking about criminals” – its called “experience” from getting your hands dirty – you should try it.

As for watching videos of “bad guys” – grow up – I am sure you can do better if you try.

If the death penalty is seen as the "ultimate disencentive" by its supporters, why do people still commit the crimes that will result in the death penalty?
The death penalty is "murder by the state" and has been used in societies to silence radicals and people who oppose the status quo.
The death penalty can not be undone and there have been many cases where people have been cleared of their crimes post humously. Cold comfort to all involved!
As the general mental health services in society have declined there is a higher proportion of mentally ill people inappropraitely placed in prison as a last resort. These people are placed at risk by genuine criminals and by their untreated mental illness. How many mentally ill people who have committed heinous crimes due to their untreated mental illness have been put to death?
In America poor unducated black men make up much of the prision population. A group that is unable due to educational and financial constraints to adequately defend themselves is it any surprise that many of those who suffer the death penalty are represented by this group?
The death penalty is a dangerous tool that should not be placed in the hands of fallible humans.