SHONGA,
I think you live in the land of OZ with the tin man and dorothy.
Redneck and others like him, I feel are sick and tired of the hardend crims getting away with the crimes they commit. We as a whole are not talking about ececuting the average parking infringment offender, or the wife basher ect. I think we are talking about the crim who reoffends repeatedly and has been convicted with out dought. Lindy Chamberland would not have fallen into this catougary as stated in a previous post by another, as there was dought and lack of hardened evidence. But the person who sits in a clock tower with a high powered rifle and picks off people at randum would fall into the group for consideration. Thats why Amercia has death row. I think you should take the blinkers off and look at the real world. And as for ladeling ex military well back off sister. Who are you going to call on when Anarche rises. The Salvos. Yes they could all pray for peace. But at the end of the day Peace is achieved through supieor fire power. End of Lecture

Daniel Miles has now been convicted of the murder of 21 year old Yolande Michael while on the run from a NSW prison. He had escaped from prison where he was serving time for the murder of 16 year old Donna Newland.

In the mid sixties, Leonard Keith Lawson was released from prison after abducting and murdering a 15 year old girl. While on parole, he raped and murdered 15 year old Mary Jane Bower at Collaroy (in Sydney.) With the police looking for him, he entered a SCEGGS girls school in Bowral and attempted to abduct a schoolgirl. In the struggle with a female heroic teacher, he fired a sawn off rifle several times which seriously wounded the female teacher and killed 15 year old Wendy Luscombe.

When Gordon Barry Hadlow was released from a Queensland prison after 22 years for the rape and murder of a six year old girl (Samantha Dorothy Bacon) he then abducted, raped, and murdered a 9 year old girl, Sharon Margaret Hamilton.

Had these three child rapist murderers been executed, four young women would still be alive today. The attitude of the anti death penalty brigade is curious. The lives of the worst kinds of criminals are sacrosanct. Only the lives of the innocent are expendable.

Capital punishment definitely stops repeat offenders

Redneck

Mmmm. Your post examples are chilling. I can see the point you are making. Actually, when I read your post I felt quite nauseous. I wondered about the girls' parents and their siblings. Sadly, they are in prison for the rest of their lives.

Now I am ambivalent again. Did you read my previous post?

Cheers
Kay

PS: What is the difference between killing and murder?

Recent Australian surveys indicate that if a referendum was held now, we would see the death penalty reintroduced. It would boil down to the wording & timing of the referendum, given that we now see, statistically, around 55% for its reintroduction. Anecdotal evidence indicates the actual percentage supporting CP's reintroduction could be as high as 70%.
This worries me. It worries me that we, as a nation, can be so collectively immature. It worries me that we cannot see the revengeful, ineffective stupidity of intentionally taking another life when the threat has already been isolated.
The main argument for CP as presented in this thread surrounds reoffence by released criminals. May I suggest this is a fault of the system of incarceration. I agree, many ciminal cases appear to result in inadequate punishment. I also consider that, quite often, legal technicalities override intuition & common sense during the sentencing process. There are obvious cases for the revision of the sentencing system.
But this does not mean CP should be used.
I think the monty python guys concluded in one sketch that if she weighed the same as a duck, she must be a witch (& therefore put to death). The death penalty makes precisely this much sense.

To Kalweb.

The difference between killing and murder is the difference between a serial killer and a soldier.

Human attitides to killing other human beings is paradoxical. The dividing line has always been the intent of the slaying. Laws exist in every society for the fundamental reason of preventing violence within the group which would threaten the stabilty (and therefore the survival) of the group.

So every community teaches it's young through it's culture that killing for personal reasons is generally very bad (there are very violent cultures where this rule is not so far reaching), while killing on behalf of your community is heroic and very good.

Thus here in Australia we do not call our old soldiers "murderers", we honour them for doing the job that they did and even hand out medals to some who were very effective killers. However, soldiers themselves can be somewhat leery of this double standard themselves, Australian soldiers in WW1 called themselves "two bob a day murderers".

barry/redneck: not that redneck needs help, wanna bet, you both need help and plenty of it if you can't afford private the State Government has psychirists available, I suggest, you don't let the grass grow under your feet, you could book a joint appointment.