As a seemingly responsible person I have bothered to try and do some home work on the origins of Islam and why it is so violent. I do this because a member of my family decided to marry into a delightful Islamic family. My h/w disturbs me greatly. It is not just the material presented in blogs such as this, but web references such as this one
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/WhytheViolence.htm.

In addition the hot seller in the USA at the moment is Robert Spences book on "The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades", which I have also bought and read.
It is deeply distrubing stuff because one realises that it is almost impossible for Islam to correct itself and bring itself into line with modern wisdoms and thought.In addition there are no signs at all that Islamis organisations are capable organising anything of note.(Particularly when the supposed world leaders like Mahathir refer to jewish people as monkeys.)

Whilst at the individual level and whilst living in a liberal western democracy the extreme elements of Islam are moderated one cannot say the same about the remaining one billion who do not live in free and democratic systems. In fact of the 10 least free countries in the world 7 are predominantly Islamic.
There is a long road of nothing but trouble ahead.Kaktuz is right

What if six or seven of the 18 are real terrorists and the rest are just guys that the terrorists met for dinner a couple times?

Do we want to be the country that shoves everybody in jail and calls everybody a terrorist before they have a fair trial. Why can't we wait for the trial and then parade the guilty ones around and say hooray we caught the bad guys and our system works.

Should everybody who ever had dinner with the executives of James Hardie get thrown in jail because they didn't protect people against asbestosis. Should everybody who worked at HIH be paraded in front of the news cameras as a cheat and fraudster who robbed innocent pensioners of their life savings?

Lets just wait for the trial.

ericc, the Bali muslims who killed so many Australians have had a trial,where are they today?
Do we wait until many more innocent folk are blown to pieces before stopping the terrorists or would be terrorists in their tracks.
Are you willing to gamble your loved one's lives on "fairness"?

mickijo -

Are you saying that you know for certain that all 18 people arrested last week are guilty? Do you really care if they are guilty? Is your solution to terrorism in Australia to just throw all the muslims out? How would you have prevented the Bali bombings, by throwing all the muslims in Bali out of Bali?

I would much prefer to live in a society which has trials and evidence is presented and unbiased people stand in judgement over whether a person has committed a crime, than live in a society where there are no fair trials.

If that is what you mean by 'gambling my loved one's lives on fairness', then the answer is yes, I would rather live in a fair society than one in which there is no justice system? More people suffered under Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot than under systems of government that have "fair" justice systems.

I can not pretend, you can not play Marcos of Queensbury Law against an enemy that has no law other than your destruction. Islamic or Socialist’s of all types.
To be frank, ASIO and AFP perhaps more so now, SAS should be engaging in full scale Military operations within our occupied borders. You seem not to understand that there are a great many Moslems in Australia that would not hesitate to slit your throat or bash your head in with a bat or construct an even more sinister demise for us Infidels, (Dissidents) without hesitation, and threaten our policemen and women then shoot up the station. Don’t know what planet Ericc you revolve around but make some more room, we are on the way: I like your world as it sounds like Australia of many years gone by: it sounds better than the one our Elites have created now-days. The Looters have control and the only social justice any will get is the notion you still breath, how long for will depend on how fast people wake up. We are at war with greater Ideological Foe: than ever before in the History of man. This war is a combination of Leftism and Islam . Both have joined forces to conquer the west so you can live in a cave once more.If you are lucky.

thanks all-. that was the funniest thing i've read in ages.