Arjay, that is another topic.

You have no grasp of Aboriginality if you do not understand the skin thing.

What makes you an aboriginal person is not your colour, it is your ancestory combined with being accepted as a member of the aboriginal community by elders.

Just because you do not look dark does not mean you are not disadvantaged. It is the fact that you are in the community living with the same social disadvantage.

it is not just about the way you look. When people do not think you are aboriginal they can let fly with whatever they truly feel without them knowing they are talking to one. Imagine a life like that where you are made to feel A: Crap from white people like yourself who do not understand the make up of an aboriginal person and genetics, and therefore crucify them because they are being true to thier genes. B: Having people not assume you are aboriginal means you are exposed to the most cruel indirect racism and racist idealogy from those who do not know your background C: The same background disadvantages of an aborignal person D: A blurring of personal identities.

Stick to what you know Arjay, stop stockpiling beer and guns.

The US have probably the highest intake from immigrants from third world countries. The fundamental differences however relies in two areas:

- Skilled migrants/ 'brain drain' migration workers.
- Immigration management program: ensuring the new migrants are settled in the new homes.

The French approach is different from the American: throwing algerians, Islanders, africans based on francophony (or phonie) only and 'avoid' contact or managing these new groups and ethnicities hoping that 'time and future generations' will resolve the problem for them.

For decades police used to avoid 'les pieds noir' suburbs as they used to call them creating Redfern-like suburbs without services, infrastructure, jobs or even basic housing.

Creating your own time bomb hoping it will never go off is an interesting logic (or lack of).

BD,

Honestly for once: grow up!
Islam is here to stay and grow, live with it.
Go offer your next door Muslim neighbour a coffee or wish them a happy fasting.

Fellow Human.

excuses, excuses and more excuses

arab muslims are tired of running amok in their own countries, so they feel the need to transport their (self inflicted) misery elsewhere

there is nothing to stop these people from taking care of their suburbs themselves

riots by muslims in denmark apparently because a newspaper offended allah
and who was behind the riot in birmingham? Buddhist monks? SIkhs?

we all know the answer to that!

Rainier "From an Indigenous perspective I couldn't agree with you more. But I doubt you'd be agreeing with me for the same historically comparative reasons. But don't let me hold you back. "

Oh, I guess I work with an understanding of the way the world is - you seem to be emotionally locked on the way the world used to be.

For instance, based on your observation, I could resent the Danes for exacting gold from my forefathers in order they would not be butchered in their beds in Viking raids - So should I stand here and demand Dear Crown Prince Frederick and Princess Mary cough up with restitution? (Answer if you wish - as you wrote "But don't let me hold you back." - but I am not holding my breath!)

Rainier I suggest you come up to date, we are talking about the world today, not 200 - 300 years ago or so when the British Enclosures Acts and dispossession of ordinary Englishmen, Irishmen, Welshmen and Scotsmen from their land fed early migration into what is now USA / Canada (only the naughty boys coming to Aus.)

As for aboriginies, they can either assimilate or die out - their choice. Contemporary Australians do not hold feilty to them any more than we do to the British Crown.

I support assimilation because the alternative to it is "segregation".

So unless you want to put up a good case for "separate development" in all its forms, special rights for aboriginal minorities, segregation, aparthied or confinement of people of certain ethnic origins into ghettoes, I suggest you simply "get-up-to-date" and stop looking back over your shoulder for something to whine about

There seems to be a few cases of selective memory operating here. Has anyone mentioned the riots in Macquarie fields? The initial events that sparked the riots in Paris hold a remarkable resemblance to that situation as well as the death of t.j hickey in Redfern, but I guess there were no Muslims involved. That’s not to say that the situation in France isn’t being exacerbated by extremism, but then what religion (or political movement) hasn’t taken advantage of poverty, unemployment and social alienation to advance its own agenda?

The point is, it’s a bit rich to claim that they are rioting because they are Muslim, when the rioters in Macquarie fields were by and large true-blue Aussies (whatever that is).

And on philo's suggestion about internment till immigrants learn the language; well I noticed during the coverage of the Sydney riots that many of them had serious trouble putting together a coherent sentence in English, their apparent first language. why not apply the same standards you want to require from immigrants to aussie too?

after all as TISM asked:

"whats the difference between those boat people, and you"?

Col,

that comment on Aborigines was a little harsh. Every race is assimilating.

I look forward to your family joining many with aboriginal heritage in the near future