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The perils of pornography : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 18/7/2005

Peter Sellick discusses the values pornography can portray

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Anomie,
I think that teenage boys do not get an erection from riding on a bus, and such stereotyping and maligning remarks about boys is uncalled for, but unfortunately becoming more common within society.
Posted by Timkins, Friday, 29 July 2005 9:48:39 AM
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Presumably, Timkins, you're not old enough to remember double-decker buses (although presumably old enough to remember the unwelcome, often public spontaneous erections which are part of puberty). The double-decker bus problem is a pretty-well universal groan moment among men of a certain age when they recall their youth. Probably has something to do with the swaying of the bus, and the vibration. Not stereotyping, just recalling what was once a common embarrassment.
Posted by anomie, Friday, 29 July 2005 10:02:52 AM
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I say do away with drugs such as viagra and get more double decker buses. Tickets please!
Posted by Rainier, Friday, 29 July 2005 10:13:33 AM
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Sels, I'm an art student only in terms of doing some evening classes for fun.

I had a look at the link you sent. I'll go for art but it's fairly easy to see how it could be porn for some people. As is the case with any static image it only gives part of the picture, no face no hands. Just the bits the cynic might suggest are the only ones men are really interested in. Is the artist making a comment about that or giving us an eyefull?

anomie, thanks for clearing up the mystery of why the Brits keep using double decker buses. Most people buy printed porn to read the articles don't they? Maybe the prose is better in magazines.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Saturday, 30 July 2005 7:38:22 AM
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Anomie,
From an article at http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/09/03/1062548898574.html

“John Marsden, the best selling adolescent fiction writer, and author of the non-fiction books Secret Men’s Business and The Boy You Brought Home, says teenage boys are also among the most maligned group in our society. “They are more maligned than any other age group and gender. The media portrays them as either drug-crazed, illiterate, unemployable, suicidal, failing at school, sex criminals or vandals. So adults tend to treat them more suspiciously and that causes them (unconsciously) to become angry or frustrated or alienated.”

I think you are making up stories about boys and buses, but like so many other social issues, the knee jerk reaction of so many people is to point their finger at a male, and now they will often point their finger at younger males, as younger males are less able to defend themselves.

In the area of porn, I understand that women view porn as much as men, but to me it seems that porn is a substitute only. Odd how our society is evolving.
Posted by Timkins, Saturday, 30 July 2005 10:02:51 AM
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Sorry, Timkins, I have a 19-year-old son. I love him devotedly. I can say with absolute certainty that I love him more than I ever thought it possible I could love anyone, and I would never dream of maligning him. You seem to mistake affectionate recognition of the risibility of some biological imperatives for a profound loathing of maleness. Not so. Try not to be so touchy. You damage a plausible case by doing so. Not everyone who smiles at male behaviour is anti-male. Not everyone who smiles at female behaviour is anti-female. And it is foolish and divisive to suggest otherwise. As it is to imply that any suggestion that males are imperfect is an attack. What it may well be is a simple recognition that human beings are imperfect, and sometimes laughable, no matter what their sex.
Posted by anomie, Monday, 1 August 2005 2:46:55 PM
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