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The perils of pornography : Comments

By Peter Sellick, published 18/7/2005

Peter Sellick discusses the values pornography can portray

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timmah your only able to speak for yourself here. I hope you are seeking professional help for your illness. I think you find it isn’t caused by porn.
Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 12:33:35 PM
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So Robert, that safari suit IS made out of rubber? Porn is a bit like McDonalds, alright if you don't treat it as a staple diet. Some people are more twitched by it than others, and get addicted. (Ted Bundy being the poster boy) Mostly men I guess, are the market and demand it. However, it's about fantasy and sexuality in a safe world, where you have the remote (and every power that gives you.) Whilst not condoning the exploitation of women in porn (after all, women are the ones that should be making porn movies - at least they'd have a plot, better working conditions and some good looking men!.) In a healthy individual, porn has a context of exploring sexuality in a safe environment. Sex doesn't always have to be a big "From here to eternity" soul thing happening. Sometimes, it's just scratching an itch. It's a bodily function after all, and religion can make it as deep and meaningful as it wants, but the reason why we do it and get driven to do it is much more base than that. One should never equate sex with love unless it's there, but that doesn't mean that sex for sex's sake, or experimenting with porn means it's necessarily demeaning for women. I have much more umbrage about ads selling sex when it's only shoes for instance.
Posted by Di, Tuesday, 19 July 2005 8:15:10 PM
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Females have produced and do produce porn that is targeted at a female audience. Nice plots, lots of airbrushing and use of 'Doris Day' lense, lots of gentle foreplay, loving and respectful intercourse... and not much in the way of sales. Men dont usually go for that style and consequently it doesn't sell very well, given that men are the main consumers of this stuff.

The female producers targeting a female audience dont make any money and more often than not abandon the very small female audience and start producing for a male audience, in the interests of economic rationalism.

As in most forms of entertainment, people want escapism and fanatasy. On the point of fantasy and escapism l think that the average guy can tell the difference between largely unrealistic no strings sex on demand and the reality of the sort of effort and challenge that sex tends to present in real life.

In any event its a chicken and egg argument. Does life immitate art or does art immitate life. PS. art is neither good nor bad... it just is.
Posted by trade215, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 11:04:10 AM
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Peter Sellick

Congratulations. It's good to see a countercultural argument like yours on this matter that refers to psychological limitations rather than religious or puritanical dogma. However, while I agree with you regarding the neurotic effects of the addicitive misuse of pornography, our views diverge on how society should respond. Society, and affected individuals, will not mature beyond such addictions by outlawing them. Each individual needs to deal with their demons and other limitations, including addicitions such as these, and grow beyond them. Liberalism gives us the opportunity to mature by exposing us to the temptations and learning to resist them. If we remove the pornography, we merely divert the neurotic's addicition to another 'fix'. So yes to the support and growth but no to the censorship.

Timmah
Congratulations to you for your courage. Most people cannot understand what you are saying. They see the black and white, not the shades of grey. Good luck with your struggle. I wish you strength.
Posted by Greenlight, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 4:07:27 PM
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Greenlight.
My argument with liberalism is that it takes a stand against any moral position that limits the freedom of the individual as long as nobody gets hurt. This is a reaction to what is seen as arbitrary moralism from religion that seems to have no other warrant than "god said". This is why it is necessary for the church to explore and explain its moral stance in a deeper way. Liberalism would have each individual making up his or her own mind free of history. We see the result of this all the time, the only thing that guides us is desire. While the "whatever floats your boat" ethic may seem to set us free it is really a dangerous nihilism that values nothing but pleasure.
Posted by Sells, Wednesday, 20 July 2005 4:33:33 PM
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The main problem with porn that no-one has mentioned is that one man's Holy Writ is another man's pornography.
Posted by plerdsus, Thursday, 21 July 2005 12:16:20 PM
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