Al
What a pathetic little rant that was. I suggest you go and have a cold shower, take a Bex and have a good lay down.
Can you name one scenario anywhere in the world of "mass terrorism" that you are so concerned about and say how torture would have prevented it. How would torture have stopped 9/11? America already had intelligence pointing to the 9/11 attack and the perpetrators but failed to act.

Your advocating torture makes you no better than the terrorists you are so worried about.
Get a life.

My spelling,is that all your got,i think you people have to much data on the brain,no more wasting my time responding to all you pathetic little people,thats want you want,your so stupid you need theorys of others just to sustain a oponion,GET OVER YOURSELF AND YOUR SELF IMPORTANCE,its a opinion,and one that will come to pass,see i am a wise man uducated in classics and theorys that you would have trouble understanding the title to,and as my teachings show,BEING WISE MEANS I DONT HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN PATHETIC ARGUMENTS OF FOOLS, TURN OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND MOVE ON-NEXT SUBJECT PLEASE!.

''DES DRITTEN REICHS SOLDAT''

An arrogant world-dominating Yankee imperialist view of torture:

Several of the replies here have not really answered the case for torture. These replies have been: it doesn't work.

Well, if it doesn't work, case closed.

The argument is: should we do it, if it DID work?

And, in my opinion, this question cannot be answered 'yes', because a 'yes' answer inevitably lends support to the use of torture in all circumstances, not just in the hypothetical ones set out in the abstract situation posed in the Philosophy 101 class.

So, NO, the state should not torture. Torture should not be used.

But ... there are things which are said, and not done. There are things which are done, and not said.

Adults in a such a terrible situation as that set out in the original argument will know how to act, without advertising a precedent for an increasingly-widening set of circumstances.

As for Mr Bundy, if he thinks he is ein Soldat des dritten Reiches, then I can see why he can't stand us arrogant Yanks [although I'm not overly-fond of Yankees as well, being a Southerner].

But then he shouldn't like you Australians either, since, as I recall, you played your part in the dismantling of the torture-Reich.

Doug

Rosscoe, I think Al Bundy need a bit more than a BEX. I'm thinking restraints.

2 comments and thats it-no more indulging you monkeys

DI-get back to the household and housework,pick up the kids from school and spend a little more of hubbys money,but mostly get a new life this is a political forum,it proves my point about one line remarks posted by someone that is a non-intelligent try hard (contact your 1900 physhic for a new reading,oh at $5.00 per minute),that has no idea on any subject whatsover,by the way do you think of your HIGHLY RESEARCHED,WELL WRITTTEN POSTS (I THINK YOUR A GENIUS)OR DO YOUR KIDS THINK THEM UP FOR YOU,you need them to turn your computer on for ya-dont ya-come on you can admit it.

DOUG-you say your a southerner and dont like yankees,that says that if slavery was still in force in the U.S. you would own a few ''black slaves''-i bet.that makes you a person that should not post anything political as what you believe is far from politics in the first instance, by the way your a CAPITILIST ''AINT YA''.
AND ALSO SEE TO IT THAT YOU GET YOUR QUOTES RIGHT-ITS-''des dritten reiches soldat'',not the backward jibberish that you had written.

No more for this subject-i am about to post a new comment for another article-SO LOOK OUT FOR IT AND I WILL SEE YOU THERE,AT A POST NEAR YOU.

al bundy continues to torture us all with his hate-filled and offensive rants.

Torture is not useful because:
a) The person being tortured may be innocent
b) The information extracted is not necessarily accurate or reliable
c) It lowers us to less than animals
d) It fosters more hatred
e) It encourages our most base emotions
f) Someone has to perform the torture - who would aspire to such a profession
and finally, as a result of all the above
g) It is morally reprehensible.