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What is it with Corby supporters? : Comments

By Surya Deva, published 27/5/2005

Surya Deva argues the rule of law must be respected regardless of the jurisdiciton and no matter how unpalatable

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Rainer,Anglosaxons don't have the monopoly on racism.Yes there are certain sections of our culture that will indulge in such feelings out of ignorance and insecurity.This however is not the domininant motivation in the Shappelle Corby injustice.Many of us have been to Indonesia and sensed these wrongs,put them to the back of our minds and enjoyed our holidays.

The real evil is that ordinary Indonesians suffer these injustices on a daily basis.Theirs is a suppressed culture that creates a festering sore of resentment that radical religious fundamentalists are using to blame us for their lot.

Perhaps Shapelle can be the catalyst for the beginnings of some reform.The Indonesians don't need encouragement to indulge themselves as the victims of of some racist Aussie plot.They need to look at the reality of corruption that perverts and enslaves their entire culture.

It need not be a loss of face for Indonesia if we are tactful but also we have to be honest in our approach.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 30 May 2005 9:31:43 PM
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You miss my point Arjay,
Perhaps that’s the difference; I couldn't go to Indonesia/Bali and ‘sense these wrongs, put them to the back of my mind and enjoy my holidays any more than I could if I saw it happen here. And many Anglo people here in Australia have been protesting the injustices in Indonesia for years. Like me they know its history and injustices all too well.
All of a sudden Bali (the place to go and be an 'international fun loving Anglo Aussie tourist' just went belly up. I think this informs the perceptions more than the Corby issue. I mean how they dare muck up’distrupt a holiday destination for urban Australian tourists who have been selling and buying dope there for years!
Posted by Rainier, Monday, 30 May 2005 9:50:04 PM
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The total idea of a boycott of all things bali-related is actually ludicrious. What do you hope to achieve? Please tell me.... hmmm, that the judges will see what a nice bunch you are, and feel so offended that they have done the wrong thing? Boycotting will only lead to a negative support from Bali tourists who frequently go to australia and buy its products. What goes around, comes around.

In any court, australian or balinese, it is guilty until proven innocent (not innocent until proven guilty).

And Di, for your information, I do not read any of the tabloids. The fact that i said that she had many husbands came from a bulletin/news.com.au article.. Anyhow, my point of including this is that the media should not portray her as an angel...
Posted by timmah, Monday, 30 May 2005 10:01:30 PM
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That Chapelle had many husbands is defamation material and scurrolous untruth. Perhaps her lawyers could chase some of these rumour mongers to assist in financing her case.

Quote, "Anyhow, my point of including this is that the media should not portray her as an angel..."

She was a typical Aussie woman of her age, and any attempt to defame her are from vindictive minds
Posted by Philo, Monday, 30 May 2005 10:19:37 PM
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Everyone, please remember that racism works both ways. (i.e. you would be very mistaken to assume that some Australians hate Indonesians and not consider that some Indonesians hate Australians.)

For my part, I believe most Indonesians do not have much time for Australia or Australians. That's despite our VERY generous tsunami relief package and private donations. It may be due to our past involvement in helping East Timor, in addition to the Islamic extremists in Indonesia that would influence Indonesian's hatred of our nation and Australians. And like Rainer said, if Australians are behaving like pigs when they go to places like Bali, this would also influence Indonesian's hatred of us.

Australians (and I include myself here) probably don't like Bali or Indonesia because we know a lot about the Sukarno/Soeharto era and the endemic corruption that went on there during those times and is still rampant in the country (just do a Google search for the number of hotels/malls/developments owned by members of the Suharto family, for example).

Therefore, let me summarise - racism works both ways; it isn't racist to comment on another country's justice system; and finally, read up on the Suharto period in particular...
Posted by Dinhaan, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 1:57:17 AM
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Keep batting those pretty blue's and the suckers will continue to support you Corby.

What a joke!It's not big brother people it's real life. The Corby supporters need to get a life.
Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 31 May 2005 9:23:28 AM
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