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Justifying rape? Most Muslims won't defend the indefensible : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 13/5/2005

Irfan Yusuf argues a Muslim leader's controversial comments on rape do not reflect the view of the majority.

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Any religeon that divides people is not good. So far as I can see, Islam divides as does Christianity. The world needs to be rid of both sects.
Posted by yahpete, Tuesday, 11 July 2006 9:50:45 PM
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"Most Muslims won't defend the indefensible".

Well I have to say, that is what I hoped would be the case, however I registered on the muslim village forums in Sydney this morning to participate in the decussions there and most (not all) were defending him saying that his comments were a lie and that he was refering to prostitues.

I posted that chanel 9 were in posession of the 17 min transcript address and that it was irrelavent what group of women he was refering to and that this beast should not be teaching our children.
My post did not even get posted and I was promptly banned.
Posted by Tash, Thursday, 26 October 2006 3:57:47 PM
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What can I say, Tash? I've been banned from those forums also! But just remember this. There are over 350,000 Muslims in Australia. Less than 1,000 are registered on the forums.
Posted by Irfan, Friday, 27 October 2006 2:10:42 PM
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Very few Muslims have raised objections to the talk addressed to them by Sheik Taj el-Din al Hilaly regarding the causes of adultery and rape.
Do they agree with him?
In a civilised society, girls and women have the right to be protected both inside their homes and outside them, in their schools, streets, work places, parks, and leisure areas.
The Imam, an influential and vocal leader of the Muslims in Australia, preaches the opposite. He teaches that 'women' (n.b. in most Muslim countries a girl is considered 'a woman' before her teens) do not deserve protection unless they remain at home, wearing veils and 'acceptable clothing'. If they do otherwise, they will cause men to attack and rape them and are actually to blame if such violence occurs. Since the Imam cites the Sydney pack rapes of young women by Muslim men, it is obvious he is suggesting that Muslim men are so lacking in self control that the sight of a young girl's hair or short skirt or the fact that a girl is outside her own home, socialising as young Australians do, was an invitation for them to commit the criminal acts. These rapists, punished by long prison terms cannot be blamed or held responsible for these criminal acts, but the women victims can. This statement was reinforced by a quote from a Muslim scholar.
Mr Taj el-Din al Hilaly must be reminded that in decent,civilised societies it is those who are violent and lacking in self control who are restricted in their movements, not their would- be victims. Those who commit crime are imprisoned or sent to psychiatric wards or confined in their homes, especially if they have problems with self control which endanger the freedoms and the lives of others.
For the safety of all women in our Australian community, Muslim men must be taught to practice self control, and if this is not possible or acceptable to them, their freedom of movement outside their homes should be strictly limited.
Never must the victim be blamed for the crime of the aggressor.
Jalex9
Posted by jalex9, Wednesday, 1 November 2006 10:49:36 AM
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