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The science of religion : Comments

By John Warren, published 17/3/2005

John Warren argues that the evolution of religion can be explained by science.

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Timkins,not so.Science will continue to find out more.It is only the limitations of our human intelligence that restricts our understanding.Just because things don't make sense, doesn't tell us god does or does not exist.We just don't have all the data or maths and physics to wrap our brains around the cosmic realities that confront us.
Posted by Arjay, Sunday, 27 March 2005 10:12:58 AM
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True, the more we learn the more we find we don't know. And that is the beauty of science. We are only limited by our own intelligence. For those who find the concept of infinity too great to grasp, they fill in that void by saying 'and here must be god'. I am reminded of times past when the extent of the earth was unknown and on maps were the words 'and here be dragons'.
Posted by Ambo, Sunday, 27 March 2005 10:32:13 AM
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Ambo,
Science has many dragons, but in scientific terms they are normally called “theories”. The Big Bang is a theory only, and there is also “string” theory, “bubble” theory etc.

Someone can have a combination of belief in science, and a belief in a religion at the same time, and even religious fundamentalists will now use TV, Internet, SMS etc.

However I would not think it appropriate to lay all bets on science as an answer to every problem (because scientific investigation has a budget).
Posted by Timkins, Sunday, 27 March 2005 10:55:12 AM
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Timkins
Have you thought carefully about your last post? "Science has many dragons, but in scientific terms they are normally called “theories”" You actually believe that scientific theories are dragons? Do you believe that fairies live at the bottom of the garden as well? Thank you for demonstrating quite clearly that those of a religious nature are less evolved than those who seek rational explanations for the world around them. And thanks for making me laugh - your posts usually inspire only despair.
Posted by Ambo, Sunday, 27 March 2005 11:13:11 AM
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Aslan: On the contrary, the Macquarie definition is precisely the one which is accepted by evolutionists when they speak of evolution.
The trouble in discussion arises because creationists only concentrate on biological evolution. The reason for that narrowness is because to accept biological evolution would necessitate accepting that we humans are the end of a long line of simpler organisms and were not specially created by a god. That is the fundamental creationists. The deists and theists dodge the problem by retaining their god while recognising that the world works by an evolutionary process, i.e: everything comes into being, grows and develops then dies.

jrm & Boaz_David both have trouble accepting that all the thoughts in what we call our mind arise from the activity of the matter in our brain. I invited someone to explain how they think the thoughts arise if it is not from that brain activity. So far no response yet I hope it is something all people who believe that the supernatural affects their lives would try to explain, at least to themselves.
Posted by John Warren, Sunday, 27 March 2005 5:46:02 PM
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Timkins, so what if science is 'only' theory? It is a very satifying, exciting, inspiring theory that does provide the basis for morals and ethics - for thinking people that is.

Aslan, I have made fun of you and your refusal to acknowledge that 'evidence' your cite for your theories is irrational and flawed.

I do apologise if I have been abusive or rude. I find you personally amusing but your desire to impose your theories on others as the absolute truth is very scarey.

As I keep repeating (cos I think it is very important) look back to the excesses of well meaning Christians who 'only' sought to save unbelievers from themselves and you will see some of the worst human behaviour.

Anyway now that you are here, I'm moving on, because you (and Timkins) seem unable to debate or discuss issues. You have your obsessions and any minute now Timkins is going to begin to castigate women's lib - they must be in league with the dreadful evolutionists?
Posted by Mollydukes, Sunday, 27 March 2005 5:57:57 PM
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