As usual the GB are off topic and out of their tiny minds. Intelligent design (ID) is just another sad attempt for Christians to push their world view. To think ID isn't a Christian world view is like suggesting family first isn't a Christian party. Evolution, geology physics and genetics are all wrong to the GB why because it contradicts the bible not because they can be shown to be wrong scientifically.
Notice how the GB’ are so up to date talking about Darwin the science of evolution has moved on in the last 150 years. Next you be telling us about the evidence for the flood, the world is only a few thousands years old and pi is equal to 3. It really is amazing the brain washing that the GB’s have gone in for. The GB’s should all be thankful that they were not around when Jim Jones was recruiting you guys would have been first in line.
Even the Catholics have move to a God of the gaps position.
Now lets get back on topic explain to us your thoughts on the article if you can.

I joined this forum a month or two ago. Good topics are posted, of course no body is going to agree with everything, pehaps only a few things.

But why the vitriol and personal attack against those identifiably Christian. Why do Kenny and his ilk hate us so much, its seems pathological. Would you like us to leave?

I appeal to the moderators of the site to at least try and squash this last kind of post from Kenny. There is certainly nothing rational about it - just someone venting their spleen.

David: Kenny is afraid that he might be wrong and there may be a Creator God after all so he is angry. Regards, numbat

I don't know whether he is afraid or not, but Aslan did draw our attention to a highly significant fact - Anthony Flew's switch from defence of evolution to embracing the concept of intelligent design as a requirement for the development of life in all its forms as we know it today. Flew has been described as the foremost British philosopher of his time.

People who don't want God in the equation cling to evolution like some old tired mantra - we would like such people to be prepared to consider the crumbling nature of the case for evolution. Personally for what it is worth, Michael Denton's Evolution A Theory in Crisis removed any last vestiges of evolution in my system, though I also find the evidence for an ancient universe compelling.

However before I say anything more, I need to heed Kenny's comment and look more closely at John Warren's argument - I suspect I will find fault with it. Back in a day or two's time.

Warren: However before I say anything more, I need to heed Kenny's comment and look more closely at John Warren's argument - I suspect I will find fault with it. Back in a day or two's time.

Not exactly approaching John Warren's argument from an un biased POV are you?

The evidence for evolution is more than compelling it cannot be explained away. The evidence for creation is zero.

I live a full and generous life without basing my good deeds on religion - I help out because I want to and so do many others who do not follow any formal religion. Please accept people as they are - not on their words but their actions - it is what you do to others that really matters not whether you believe in Jesus, Jehovah or Buddha.

Here's a link for Aslan - because you like them so much. This one is on the evolution of mammalian sex and how the X chromosone has been decoded and what it means for our understanding of differences between men and women. No doubt this discovery will assist medical science in treating many genetic illnesses. The article does not prove creationism however, and as far as I know creationism has not contributed any cures to our store of medical knowledge, not even aspirin.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A41919-2005Mar16.html