Boaz
I terms of being a possible “female hater” then I have just finished writing a weekly letter to a little girl and her family in Africa that I sponsor. I have sponsored 3 children over the years, 2 girls and 1 boy. So such things would not classify myself as being a “female hater” if that is what you may be thinking.

However the situation in our society with many feminists and many women’s organisations has reached critical mass stage. There are an enormous number of these women’s organisations being directly supported by government. You can start at the web-site of the Office of Women and then begin to find these organisations.

People have researched a number of these organisations, and found that they do not have any males within them, and their policies and media releases indicate they have minimal regard for males. In effect, they are highly gender incestuous and are often “male-hatter” type organisations. They often rely on highly biased social science research to make their claims regards men, and try and indoctrinate women into becoming male haters as well.

Now on the other side, there are many men in the community who are in great need, but organisations that try and help such men have to go hand in cap to government to receive even one cent in government support. You may have heard of the Mensline phone service, which is the government’s main telephone counselling service for men. It daily receives calls from men about to commit suicide, but nearly 4 out of 5 calls cannot be answered by Mensline because they are so under- resourced (and this service is the government's "main" service)

http://www.menslineaus.org.au/cms/

So feminism is mostly a complete fraud, because it is based so much on false information and brainwashing (as I have given details of in previous post in a number of forums). Women’s organisations are often highly gender incestuous, often become “male-hater” type organisations, and soak up government funding that should really be going to other areas.

So, should men OR women just sit back and allow this to continue indefinitely, like it has been occurring for a number of decades now.

I don’t think so.

TIM
agreed. No argument with what u posted.
I hope u can garner support and make something happen along the lines you suggest.
The 'male hating' womens organizations would most likely be driven by a very left wing philosophical foundation. Which is a specifically identifiable part of their wider strategy to destablize society in preparation for the 'revolution' :) well.. or perhaps "If u cant take over with guns, take over in more sneaky ways"

BOAZ_David,

You say “Sadly too, there are some who have gained a bit of personal momentum through the womens (and any) movement who will (like the Unions) struggle for relevance by trying to unearth new issues to base their lives on.”

Well here’s a new issue in that struggle for relevance.

“Women working for Toyota would receive 12 days' paid menstrual leave a year under a deal being sought by the Australian Manufacturing Workers Union.”

http://smh.com.au/articles/2005/02/10/1107890350588.html

Oh, what a feeling? No more Toyotas for me.

Seeker..yes exactly my thought.

While I sympathize with the plight of women experiencing severe period pain, I would think a discretionary approach might be better, and also if such a thing crops up each month on a PRODUCTION line, it may mean that they are not suitable for that work environment, which is disruptive to the flow of production.

But let's not kid ourselves that this will be the 'last'... there will be many more.. "a Macca's style PLAYGROUND at each workplace for single mums to park their kids" :)

Boaz, timkins, your posts have served to prove my point more adequately than any rebuttal I could provide.

Your comments have nothing to do with the article, its intention or the tone in which it was written.

You have merely used this article as the basis for a concerted attack against the women's movement, feminism, women in general, and even individual women.

I notice that this is a particular tactic employed when replying to any article or comment made about women, here at The Forum, regardless of the topic.

Bitterness and anger is obvious. But you don't offer anything other than blame and religion.

Which, coincidentally enough, were always used hand in hand when it came to societies subjugation of women.

Oceangrrl,

Please provide specific details regards your accusations about myself. Your accusations are totally generalized and non-specific.

In this forum and in others, I have provided many details and examples to support my statements, and I have provided innumerable links to other pieces of information that can be easily found on the web, and if you have ever made the effort to read that information, then you will normally find that it was originally written by females. This hardly would qualify myself as being sexist in some way, as you are attempting to infer.

You have provided "nothing". No specific details, no links to other pieces of information etc. Just generalized accusations about myself which are in effect, very similar to the type of policies and media releases from many organizations now within the women’s movement, and that is where the women's movement has finally evolved to

What is the use of women having the vote, if they are not using that vote constructively. I think that is an important issue.

BTW. Do you agree with the concept of “divorce parties for women”, (as detailed in an earlier posting), and if not, then why doesn’t the women’s movement condemn such things?