Jci,
It is not a bad thing at all for people to be healthier, wealthier, safer etc.

However in reality, very little of this has actually come from the women's movement, and most advances in society have come from science and technology. There are countries such as the US that do not have compulsory voting, and only about 30% of females vote in some elections, so women voting is not the main reason for advances in society. Women having the vote means very little in ensuring democracy also, as many countries can have highly corrupt voting systems even with women voting. Women voting is just one small part of democracy and of society.

Very recent examples have been given of the attitudes and type of thinking of a number of women in the women's movement. You are suggesting that such people are male-friendly. Unfortunately there are many who believe that such people are some of the most untrustworthy, deceitful, and ungrateful of individuals, who have no interest in changing their general attitudes towards males in the slightest. The matter becomes more important when a number of them are being paid out of the tax-payer’s pocket.

You say that women like men, unfortunately very few women have ever made any formal complaint about the highly objectionable women who often become involved in the women's movement. I have heard a lot of informal complaint, but there appears to be minimal formal complaint being made by women about these other highly objectionable women. One can only assume from this that the vast majority of women actually support the type of maligning remarks and male vilification from such people as the Sex Discrimination Commissioner, who has rarely made any positive remark about the male gender.

You will all LOVE this... purely gossip and definitely SEXIST...
Some years ago, I pulled in at a service station. I noticed one car was parked ACROSS the flow of traffic. It was totally out of whack with how it should be. Then, the drive emerged from the snack shop. Like an idiot, instead of calling 'her' an inconsiderate moron like I should have, I said "aah..had to be a woman driver" which threw her for a second, after which she responed with "Sexist bastard".... wellllll I've been hearing that guys are supposed to be better at 'spacial' things than gals.. dont know now true. But this morning, I went to another service station, and there were parking bays outlined in front of the snack shop bit, clearly marked. U GUESSED IT, a car was parked ALONG them.. taking up about 3. Not able to park, I plonked my car right behind that one, so it could not get out. I didn't worry about who or what was the driver, but it did happen to be female :) who had to wait patiently for me to do my business inside before she could move her car.

Hi Timkins

You have actually almost entirely agreed with my point, did you note I said that the main reason for the advancement of women's sufferage was the change of attitude of society as a whole to more areas than just women's rights?

Regards

Bad women drivers - You are just trying to wind me up now!

I think its like dogs, its how you are taught to behave. Let me explain that...

I find small dogs (like chihuahuas and terriers) yappy and annoying but every now and then you find a really sensible small dog. It usually turns out that this dog is raised by someone who already has a Kelpie or a German Sheppard or some other sort of none-cutsie dog. The result is the little dog doesn't know its a stupid yappy dog and doesn't act like it.

Its like that with women drivers. I was taught to drive by my dad (as was my sister) and we are both excellent drivers (her more than me, but anyway). The main thing that my dad taught us both was consideration for other drivers - don't cut people off, don't drive too slowly and hold people up, look before you do something, etc and so forth. Basic GOOD MANNERS.

That women who parked over three spaces was just plain RUDE! The problem is its probably impossible to educate her.

JCL
Looking at the situation very objectively, then some of most sordid, disgusting, and biased remarks I have seen in the media in recent times, have come from people involved in the women’s movement. But as “mere male” my opinion would be misogynist only

JCL
yes..I know :)
I stir the pot from time to time. I can't let those who already see me as a 'male chauvenist pig' lose faith completely in that vision eh ...
But on the other hand...I'm so NOT politically correct. I give and I take. If some lady says "Blooddddy MEN" !!! I don't mind.
Warm hearted digging at the opposite gender is fun. If we have lost our sense of humor over such things I think its a sad day. Digs are not meant to degrade people, they are actually saying 'I"m a guy, Your a girl.. isn't it GREAT'