Oi Periscope..

If you and oz are not talking, but you and I still are.. there is a reason for that :) you might detect it within the lines of the intro to this interview below.
check out this web site about a substantial brain of atheist might:

http://theroadtoemmaus.org/RdLb/21PbAr/Apl/FlewTheist.htm

I had never even heard of this guy until 2night.. like u said "I must get out more" (Aslan pointed him out)

*waddles back into his burrow*

TEAM.. I'll be interested in seeing if my email to the chairman of the Islamic council of vic produces any results, I invited him to come or send some rep to our forum to defend their faith :)
So, I went not just to an 'other' but to the CHIEF "other" himself.

keep up the good work and rip into me if u feel I need it.

People,

Following is a very good article by L. Maher published in the Murdoch E-Law Journal entitled: "Free Speech and its Postmodern Adversaries". It is very interesting and touches on many of the points we have discussed on this forum and others including free speech, censorship, vilification, postmodernism, social and language construction etc etc.
http://www.murdoch.edu.au/elaw/issues/v8n2/maher82nf.html

AK

Pericles
>>>>(Ozaware)and I aren't talking 'cos of my sarcasm).

response: that must be your decision since this is news to me. WERE you being sarcastic? In my last communication I asked you to clarify.

>>>> I see only an amateurish, and very arrogant, piece of self-promotion. It is only half a step away from those tiny-blue-script letters that complain of voices and secret government conspiracies.

response; I cannot respond to ad hominems and generalisations. I've alse been referred to in these pages as being 'hysterical'. Please give me some specific examples and let's see how we deal with them, hmmm?

Amateurish? Yes, probably so. My delivery may well be amateurish, but I publicly challenge you , Pericles (or anyone else for that matter) to rationally debunk anything meaningful in the actual content of the oz-aware website.

Go on, this is a direct public challenge. Put your intellectual money where your mouth is, bud!

I am more focussed on the message than the delivery, which is the exact inverse of almost everything written today. Remember, Peri, as is often and clearly stated in the Oz-Aware website, I am a mere messenger. There's not much there that's "my" opinion.....

As for the 'arrogance'---well that's a relative term. Give me an example of that too and let's see if it it actually 'arrogance' or simple truth. Having said that, perhaps what you perceive as arrogance is simply deep knowledge and experience that refuses to waste time with ignorance or idiocy---because Peri, mass ignorance absolutely abounds in this society. It is an ignorance literally born of inexperience---when one is living in paradise and 'having fun' all the time, there's little of value to be learned.

That has been the reality in Australia for the longest time and when the fit hits our social shan the vast majority of people---like yourself, obviously----will not nearly know what hit them.

One can 'be diplomatic' and offer feelgood views to make oneself popular. In that way one is merely part of the general corruption and downhill slide.

Or one can step outside of the p-in-pocket mobthink and tell the not-always pretty truth. As history has repeatedly shown, this is always the quickest way to get crucified. Why do you think those in power nailed the Truth Teller two thousand years ago? Recall Copernicus and the earth not being the centre of the universe? Galileo? Bruno and his 'arrogant' views about a flat earth? My history may be faulty, but the fundamental facts offered are way too solid for anyone to debunk. Go ahead and try....

Being pilloried by the mob does not necessarily mean that one is wrong. In fact, it's usually a good sign of being too accurate for comfort.

Re-read my previous post Pericles. I'm always willing to 'talk'.

Leave our real---and growing---problems unattended long enough and the swing to 'right wing' one day in this country will take your breath away. In comparison, I'd then be seen as a 'wimpish moderate'.

And if you choose to no longer communicate, that's OK---just remember in ten/twenty years' time that I warned where this society is going---and it is thinking like yours (which view, I estimate you share with 80% of the educated population) that is taking us there---guaranteed.

And if you call such statements 'hysteria'.....well, that's your perception and time will tell who has the more accurate vision....

GOOD !!
the cosmos is restored.. OZ and Periscope are talking :)

Keep it up Pete, those challenges are good

Ozaware, let's see now.

"As for the 'arrogance'---well that's a relative term. Give me an example of that"

How about:

"Only if the reader thoughtfully follows all of the lessons to be provided in this Project will he or she eventually be able to make a competent judgment"

That's a "relatively arrogant" statement in my book.

Your other 'challenge': "I publicly challenge you , Pericles (or anyone else for that matter) to rationally debunk anything meaningful in the actual content of the oz-aware website."

You ask that I track down something meaningful in the content of your website. Regretfully, I failed at this hurdle.

But have a wonderful day anyway. Keep listening to the voices.