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The paternal state - politician sperm donors? No thanks! : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 24/1/2005

Melinda Tankard Reist examines Gab Kovac's plan to get politicians to donate sperm.

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Hi Boaz,
I’m not that hot under the collar, just learning to ignore all the slings and arrows from “certain” people that believe they have a right to make 150,000 insinuations about myself, or intentionally misinterpret what I have said.

From what I have read of it, then meetings or contact between the donor parent and the child can become so emotional as to be traumatic. (Eg the child does not know where it’s true identity is, the parents who brought up the child get jealous of the donor parent, the donor parent may have 10 –15 children already somewhere in the world and does not want any of them to become too dependant or too attached to them etc.)

We have had IVF now for 20 – 30 years, and there are now some who believe that it is generally best not to tell the child. This then is another problem, whether to tell the child or not.
Posted by Timkins, Monday, 31 January 2005 10:45:47 PM
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EXACTLY !!! what u described is the reality..and the logical one. TOOOO much of what goes on today is about no-one other than "meeeeeeeeeeeeeee" emphasis deliberate. The words 'choice' and 'equal opportunity' and "empowerment" are bandied around, but seems to me like often just a smoke screen for 'me me me'.
BOAZ
Posted by BOAZ_David, Tuesday, 1 February 2005 12:18:17 AM
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I agree that adoption would be a noble option. After all, we dads do our fair share of it already. Somewhere between 20% and up to 30% of children we believe to have fathered, are not actually ours.

Although DNA paternity testing is now available and affordable, it only occurs at the edges, and in disputes where Family Court requests it. Perhaps it should be made standard part of the process - say a prerequisite to birth certificate. It would at least be nice to know our true adoption rates
Posted by Seeker, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 11:21:16 PM
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I see what you mean Seeker. Adoption is already being carried out, but informally without the father knowing.

IVF is becoming quite commercialised and could go franchise. I can even see IVF clinics combining with abortion clinics so as to offer more “choice”.

There are many problems with IVF, but the biggest concern is that it will become like the abortion industry, where debate has been silenced because of “choice”. You can't talk about abortion, so any problems involving abortion have not been fully identified and satisfactory solutions found, because of “choice”.

So problems with the IVF industry may simply grow in number as well, and those problems will be hidden away and not solved properly because of lots of “choice” (and of course those paternal sperm donors, or wankers as the author thinks of them)
Posted by Timkins, Friday, 4 February 2005 9:37:09 AM
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Even natural conceptions, carried to full term, are problematic, Mr Timkins. We’re a narcissistic bunch these days, and although each one of us is at the very centre of that universe we each imagine, individually, we are responsible for very little. We’re permanently on the lookout for someone else to blame. Men seem to continue taking more than their fair share.

I trust you’re already familiar with Dr Summers, the president of Harvard University who “has provoked a furore by arguing that men outperform women in maths and sciences because of biological difference, and discrimination is no longer a barrier for female academics”. If not, here’s a link:
http://www.smh.com.au/news/Science/Harvard-chief-angers-women/2005/01/18/1105810916573.html

Seems men are running out of solutions, and Dark Ages are surely ahead (the book “Dark Age Ahead” was written by a woman).

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Paul-Sheehan/Why-the-West-is-riding-for-a-fall/2005/01/14/1105582711593.html
Posted by Seeker, Friday, 4 February 2005 9:38:18 PM
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Oh, almost forgot …

Did you all happen to catch the first episode of Desperate Housewives (or the article that preceded it)? I did.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Paul-Sheehan/New-rules-in-the-Age-of-Woman/2005/01/30/1107020258549.html

Another Paul Sheehan article ... din't he also write about male politicans not washing their hands after going to toilet?

I’m hooked already.
Posted by Seeker, Friday, 4 February 2005 9:58:00 PM
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