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The paternal state - politician sperm donors? No thanks! : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 24/1/2005

Melinda Tankard Reist examines Gab Kovac's plan to get politicians to donate sperm.

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The issue of IVF treatment is a complex one, but I’m more than troubled at times by the general level of ethics and standards enclosed within many women’s minds.

The author of this article, Melinda Tankard, has made liberal use of terms such as “scatter their seed”, “put their wrigglers into the collection tin” etc.

The use of IVF treatment can incorporate many health and emotional problems, and there are considerable moral issues involved. There is also the question of whether or not IVF companies are operating simply for monetary gain, or for more altruistic reasons.

However I believe that persons such as Melinda Tankard, only degrade the issues involved to the lowest level. I wouldn’t be having her as a role model.
Posted by Timkins, Monday, 24 January 2005 1:14:38 PM
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Well, Melinda has aptly described herself in her last sentence.We need good genetic material from a who range of people from our society, since our whimpish attitudes are are diluting not enhancing our genetic pool.The way we are going, most of our Govt budgets will be put towards fixing genetic defects.Once upon a time we conceived ten children and and four died.Now we save one at all cost.Where is survival of the fittest?Where are those healthy children that will never exist because we have so few to polish our self indulgent life styles?If the body is the is the vehicle for the soul, shouldn't we be improving the vehicle?
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 24 January 2005 8:14:48 PM
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Timithy, I'm sorry, but you really need to get a life and stop reading every article written by a woman as though it's an attack on men. Lighten up! And thanks for the excessive-PC policing, but honestly - “put their wrigglers into the collection tin” is just a light hearted euphemism. If every opinion had to be devoid of humour and delivered in the muted, ultra-conservative, PC way which you prescribe, we'd all be jumping off a bridge in no time. Great article Melinda, it was fun and light hearted. Anyone that saw some sort of malicious intent in it seriously needs to seek a little therapy.
Posted by Audrey, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 9:04:18 AM
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Hi Audrey,

If you had any great knowledge of IVF, you would know that there are many highly serious ethical and moral issues involved. It could be a case that the technology of IVF has developed too rapidly for society to have fully debated and legislated on these ethical and moral issues.

The article by Melinda only mentions a fraction of these issues, and I believe that her article was just a thinly disguise attempt to label male MP’s as being “wankers”, and to try and infer that other males are similar.

I have read an enormous amount of literature by female authors who try and discredit the male gender as much as possible. In the past, advertising companies have also tried to discredit and mock males as well, but I understand that a number of these advertising companies are now being brought to account in the US. Female authors who try and discredit the male gender will follow.

The issues involving IVF are very serious issues, and any author who includes terms such as “arse-licker” in an article on these issues, has no place in the debate on those issues.

Again, I see Melinda Tankard Reist as not being a suitable role model for anyone, and she would be highly unqualified to be writing an article on the ethical and moral issues involving IVF.
Posted by Timkins, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 11:09:29 AM
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Timithy, Audrey is right you really do have to lighten up. This piece was well written and the author made her points without turning it into a rant. I don't agree with her but to say she is unqualified is wrong. When it come to issues such as these every ones opinion is valid even yours.
Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 11:56:26 AM
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Hi Kenny

Have a real good look at the real world.
Posted by Timkins, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:02:54 PM
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