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The paternal state - politician sperm donors? No thanks! : Comments

By Melinda Tankard Reist, published 24/1/2005

Melinda Tankard Reist examines Gab Kovac's plan to get politicians to donate sperm.

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What do you mean by that, have you some special insight?
Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:12:08 PM
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Well Timithy, if you knew anything about politics and didn't just fly off the handle at everything, you'd know that Melinda was referring to Mark Latham's calling John Howard an 'arse licker' back in 2002. And I believe that Peter Dutton in turn stated that Latham should be sacked "..not just because he is a thug that bashes taxi drivers, but because he is a disgrace as a member of the Australian Parliament". Hmm. Perfect role models, you are right, MUCH better than Melinda. Noone is claiming that IVF is not a serious issue. And more than one member of my family has been through the IVF wringer, so there's need to be patronising thanks! However, if we can't use a little humour to deal with difficult topics, then we will get nowhere. People will just switch off. And on an unrelated topic, do you know how many times the term 'wanker' has been used in Australian politics? I believe it is a well-worn part of the aussie vernacular. More commonly used by men in reference to men. Does this mean that all men who use 'wanker' are now man-haters?
Posted by Audrey, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:57:33 PM
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As a general rule, nature normally gets things right and people don’t.

Modern man has only been around on planet earth for a relatively short period of time, and whenever man has interfered too much with nature, then man has normally become worse off.

IVF is an artificial or man-made process, and the latest IVF technology is very much pushing the boundaries of what is natural (or meant to be), and what is not.

I’m no Luddite by any means, as I have been involved in quite a lot of technology in the past. But in the longer term, I would think that there would be more serious problems associated with IVF then we are even remotely aware of.

However, articles like the one by Melinda only degrade the considerable issues involved. Her article is just a thinly disguised attempt at “male-bashing”, and there are many other articles released in recent times that are similar. Normally the subject matter of these articles is irrelevant to most of the authors, just the “male-bashing”.
Posted by Timkins, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 12:59:11 PM
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Are you a hippy Timmy? Nature gets it wrong all the time it is the main driving force behind evolution. As fore your hippy attitude towards what is natural, is a bird building a nest natural? Is a beaver building a dam natural? What about a person building a house? Get real we are a part of nature and all our acts are natural and work generally work very well thank you, next you'll be going on about gm crops and going back to nature.
Posted by Kenny, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 1:29:08 PM
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Kenny,
I have been involved in quite a lot of technology in the past, up to developing new types of software, and I have done quite a lot of work in areas of engineering.

However there are now many technology researchers becoming very concerned about certain types of new technology, and where that technology will be taking us. Nano technology is one example, and IVF technology is another.
Posted by Timkins, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 1:42:09 PM
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I feel so sorry for Timithy. You poor old sod, picked on by women all the time, even the blokes have given you a serve and all because you want to be soooo serious. Well it takes all types. Thanks to Melinda for bringing a smile to my face. We all need a laugh now and then, especially Timmy.
Posted by Ringtail, Tuesday, 25 January 2005 3:59:38 PM
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