BIG AL
indeed :) Did my links help you ?

BOAZ_David, I have tried to get onto your links, but they are always rejected. However I have read much of Durie's evidence, and am most impressed by his approach, his thoroughness and his lengthy quotes from leading Muslims. I've never heard of him before, but he seems to be the man of ethics and integrity I hoped for previously. I cannot understand why that Judge should fail to be impressed by his evidence.

This legislation is an attack on our freedom to comment on various religious and political matters as we have done for generations without causing any violence or strife worth mentioning. It is noteworthy that Western Australia and South Australia have abandoned plans to introduce laws on "religious vilification". It's a pity that wiser heads [if here are any ] in the Victorian State Labor Government did not put a stop to this in Victoria.

Dear Chris Cooper, LDS Public Affairs.

You are I suppose entitled to call yourselves Christians, but then it is also fair to say that you do not hold the understanding of God as trinity that orthodox, Catholics, Protestants and Eastern Orthodox do, so from their viewpoint you are not Christians, leave aside your many other strange doctrines.

I should not misrepresent your beliefs, and I have not and will not, but I am perfectly entitled to strongly criticise them.

I guess you do the same especially as the Prophet Joseph Smith was told by God that all the existing church were wrong etc etc.

Yours for truth in advertising,

Rowland Ward

Ruth,

Sorry for the late comment but I recently saw your article.
First, there are lots of debate sites between Christians and muslims but the CTF excercise was not one of them.

I am a muslim who grew up in Catholic/ Coptic education and have been
into countless religious debates but at the end you walk out accepting other people differences and accept that it is God who judges us all on our hearts and intent.

If the CTF excercise had a good intent in debating Islamic religion, he should have debated the area of disagreement between Mulsims and Christians which is comparing Jesus's story in the Koran and in the bible or Virgin Mary's stroy in the same references. Muslims believe in Jesus as a prophet of God, Believe he is the Messiah and believe in his virgin birth. The key debate have always been on Jesus divinity and subsequently the trinity of God.

If you bypass the Koranic references and go a pick a 6th source hadith (as a pastor you know hadith have many sources) to me that sounds as ill intented as a mulsim picking up lot story from the bible to claim christianity encourages incest sexual behavior.

Christians who convert to Islam or the opposite are usually around those two topics: Jesus divinity and God's trinity. The CTF acted like the joke of the man who lost a piece of jewelery in a dark area so he went looking in a light drenched area because it was easier to look. Ignoring the real debate points and looking somewhere else where it is easy' is what the CTF did.

We can encourage healthy debates but I am sure any reasonable person can see what the CTF in Victoria was all about.

Having said that, I congratulate honest priest and pastors who took the witness stand against the CTF.

Regards

Ash

How can any priest, pastor or minister support a law which allows a convicted sex offender in Ararat jail to sue the Salvation Army for running an ALPHA course in basic Christianity, thereby forcing the SA to spend valuable resources defending itself?
This legislation has set Muslims against Christians, and now reportedly, Jews are set to take action against a group of Muslims. Yet it was supposed to protect religious harmony! It's made to order for troublemakers like the above sex offender.

No wonder the Anglican and Catholic Archbishops of Melbourne, the Victorian Liberal Party, and Muslim spokesman Amir Butler have recently come out against it. Labor Governments in WA and now NSW have decided against following Victoria down this dangerous track. The Liberal and National Parties in Victoria should pledge to repeal this law as soon as they next form a Government.

Excellent post Fellow_human. The point at issue here has been lost on many.