I don't believe there is a political left or right, only moderates, and those extending to the extremes, The Political Horseshoe Theory, where the extremes bend towards each other. Was the great Mahatma Gandhi, politically left or right? He didn't fit either mould, In the context of his time and place he was a social reformer.

There are those that believe social change can only be achieved through violent struggle, in some context that may be true, but in a free liberal democracy like Australia, with a strong ethics-based order, the pathway to progressive change can be achieved through non violent democratic means. We have been doing that for 125 years.

AC
'I do, 'ethics and principles', you seem unfamiliar?'

No wonder your rant is full of projection and self-delusion. Killing a baby in womb at 9 months is ok but at 10 months in Gaza is murder.

You write
'Like humans aren't born with consciences or the ability to reflect on past events as individuals?'

Does not seem to have helped you. Your ability to twist the truth is amazing.

Hi runner,

Religious indoctrination is well known, "get'm while they're young" they say. I was baptised a Catholic at 4 days old. Much of what AC's says is true. On the question of abortion, I take an even handed view, not in favour of abortion on demand, then I do see where in certain medical circumstances it is necessary. Your claim that abortions are taking place up until birth is false, certain in Australia, can you provide evidence?

I am disguised with the attitude of Christian Church's towards paedophilia, both past cases, and what is taking place presently. The current case of Christopher Saunders, the Catholic Bishop of Broome, found guilty of paedophilia, the Vatican should have excommunicated the bastard immediately. Like with thousands of other convicted clergy, the Pope says nothing, and takes no action.

p/s A couple of years ago, I asked an Anglican priest, about paedophilia in his church, his reaction was; "Its something I don't talk about, its in the past." No its not, its rife among Christian "missionaries" in third world countries, today.

Hi runner,

I never said I supported abortion, like its some freedom we celebrate, like democracy.
I simply said willfully murdering other peoples kids is far worse than terminating ones own pregnancy.

You're the one bringing Aussie women and abortion it, like somehow that argument absolves Israel of its mass killings of other people kids.
How ridiculous, completely screwed up logic.

'It's ok for Israel to shoot 8 year olds with sniper rifles in the head, because Aussie women get abortions.'
- Are you a few beers short of a carton? No offense.

'You can't talk about Israel like that, because Australian women are having abortions - don't you know - ABORTIONS!'

Your position is pretty arrogant and ridiculous as well you know.
It seems like you think that if a woman allowed you to get in there without a condom even just once that she's now obligated to carry your baby for 9 months like a vessel and then raise it for you like her whole entire purpose in life was to serve you getting your load off.
Is that what you think?

I'm not a leftist, I hold different positions on different issues.
I'm not defined by the boxes other people use to pigeon-hole each other.
I don't really care about left or right, progressive or conservative.

Like if I support the Palestinians I'm a leftist.
Or if I support lower immigration I support the right.
I don't support either the left or the right, I don't support their 'gang mentality'.
I don't want to be a part of the screwed up lefts 'gang'
And I don't want to be part of the lost and confused rights 'gang'.
I hold different positions on different topics, end of story.
I don't follow a mindset of being progressive for the sake of being progressive, or being conservative for the sake of being conservative.

Hi Paul

Indoctrination comes in numerous forms. Whether it comes in the form of religion, god denying or socialism. Mr Science along with many of his colleagues have shown they as just as corrupt as any paedophile priest. He along with numerous others are responsible for mass murder through the mrna clot/cancer triggering shots. Also a number of the high priest atheist (ethicist) were regular visitors to Epsteins island.

You seemed obsessed with the Catholic church. Paedophile is at much higher rates in Indigenous, alphabet and Muslim communities. My view is that of Jesus. 'But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6

I also think the only thing worse than Paedophile is people who wrongly smear others with such a heinous crime. That is what made me so sick when the deviants in the Victorian Government and the alphabet crew used outright lies to convict Pell.

Yes, there is a problem.
But humans are able to work there way through problems like this.
At least I think that is the case.
I considered my life to be a mess, until I decided to be absolutely truthful with myself.
I questioned internally most of the things I had been taught.
I saw the absurdity of many of them.
Finally I settled in to a comfortable and logical state of mind.
I aim to be progressive and constructive, and avoid those things which cause loss rather than gain.
My impression is that the world in general is growing away from violence as a cure-all.
It is a slow process, but there are those making it happen.
People who resort to violence and killing as a means of expressing their annoyance are just plain wrong.
And worse are those who use those things to attempt takeover of another country.
The means used by those in ancient times to make what they thought was progress, is indeed suspect by today's standards.
No, I don't think Alexander the Great was someone to be admired.
The human race came from the animal kingdom, where disagreement is settled by aggression and conflict.
Those things must be left behind us, if we are to live peaceful and productive lives.
Progress must be by discussion, which in turn leads to logical conclusion.
And I think we are capable of following that path every day.