The left and right are just two opposing ends of a madness scale.
Go a little far in one direction and you become a danger to everyone else.

At the far ends the left are no more nutty than the right, who pledge their loyalty to Israeli baby killers, and then try to convince others of their Christian moral authority that is actually non-existent.

And that said those out on the fringes have opportunities to speak truths the major parties can never voice.

Everything that needs saying about the ABC has been said, over, and over, and over …..

Nothing has happened, and nothing will.

But, the instigator of the disgusting attack on Gina Rinehart is a raving lunatic who could be easily dealt with under hate speech laws. Like all Leftists, she thinks violence is the way to deal with people they don't like. The recognition of leftist violence is only just beginning.

thankyou Jafar. You have summed it up well. The irony is that that some liberal leftist feminist being paid massively is likely to be preaching/indoctrinating kids about 'stolen' land. It is sickening when you see Pakistani women who have fled the slavery of Islam, enjoying the nation European Immigrants built and now spewing hatred towards those who gave them their entitlement.

Armchair seems stuck in his dogma '
At the far ends the left are no more nutty than the right, who pledge their loyalty to Israeli baby killers,'

Go to any of our hospitals and you will witness babies being murdered up to birth daily. These killers are no better than Isarael or Arab baby killers. Now in the US if you are prescribed many of the psy drugs you can claim insanity in killing your children. At least you have some sort of moral base to call killing babies wrong. I wonder where that came from?

Thank you so much for this clear article and straightforward approach to a catastrophic problem in our wider community.

Hi runner,

"preaching/indoctrinating kids about 'stolen' land."
- I've got about 1% indigenous in me, are you purebred or a bitsa?

That 1% however is quite aware of my indigenous ancestors history.

"During the Appin Massacre on April 17, 1816, British soldiers ambushed an Indigenous camp along the Cataract River gorge (near Appin, south of Sydney). Troops shot at least 14 to 16 Gundungurra and Dharawal people, and forced many others, including women and children, over the rocky cliffs of the gorge to their deaths."

"Go to any of our hospitals and you will witness babies being murdered up to birth daily. These killers are no better than Israel or Arab baby killers."

So now the problem's Aussie women?
People terminating their own unborn children before birth isn't the same as killing other peoples kids once they've EXITED the womb.

This is the narrow-minded garbage the right promote, then wonder why no-one takes them seriously anymore.

They'll say 'you must never kill the unborn'
- Like somehow they want us to believe 'all life is sacred' and they're morally superior.
Then 1 minute later on the topic of Muslims, Palestinians or indigenous, will quietly say:
- "Israel should just kill the bastards already!", or "Those lives aren't important!"

"At least you have some sort of moral base to call killing babies wrong. I wonder where that came from?"

I do, 'ethics and principles', you seem unfamiliar?
Certainly didn't get it from the church I was forced into, where people blabbered incoherent shite like they were on cocaine and magic mushrooms, or the bible which turned their minds into scrambled eggs and mash potato.

What religion are you, bubble and squeak?
Where'd you get your morals, King Herod, I mean Netanyahu?
The world might've been a better place if he was terminated before birth, what do you think about that?

Like humans aren't born with consciences or the ability to reflect on past events as individuals?

'No we're all just mindless animals before the bible was written AC'
- If you actually believe that runner maybe your logic is the problem.

Powerful writing.

I’m not sure there is a moral equivalence or continuum between Kate McGuinness’s diatribe against Gina Rinehart - disgusting though it was - and the murders of Charlie Kirk and Brian Thompson.

And the left isn’t alone in its use of political violence. There is a depressingly long list of US politicians and their families who have been murdered or the targets of violence, and the victims are roughly evenly drawn from the political left and the political right.
http://www.britannica.com/topic/Political-Violence-in-the-US-in-the-21st-Century

Here in Australia, almost 10% of people support political violence in some circumstances, with a further 10% indicating they “neither agree not disagree” with political violence. Young people are significantly more likely to support political violence than older ones.
http://apo.org.au/sites/default/files/resource-files/2025-11/apo-nid332763_0.pdf

In its annual threat assessment, ASIO says that in recent years “we have dealt with extremists across the ideological spectrum. Including one who allegedly combined ideological and extreme Christian beliefs, and an individual allegedly inspired by an extreme left-wing ideology.”
http://www.asio.gov.au/resources/speeches-and-statements/director-generals-annual-threat-assessment-2026

So yes, we have a serious problem with loss of commitment to democratic processes, grievance politics and an increasing justification of, and normalisation of, political violence. But it is not only a problem of the left. The far right and religious extremists are also a threat.

I don't believe there is a political left or right, only moderates, and those extending to the extremes, The Political Horseshoe Theory, where the extremes bend towards each other. Was the great Mahatma Gandhi, politically left or right? He didn't fit either mould, In the context of his time and place he was a social reformer.

There are those that believe social change can only be achieved through violent struggle, in some context that may be true, but in a free liberal democracy like Australia, with a strong ethics-based order, the pathway to progressive change can be achieved through non violent democratic means. We have been doing that for 125 years.

AC
'I do, 'ethics and principles', you seem unfamiliar?'

No wonder your rant is full of projection and self-delusion. Killing a baby in womb at 9 months is ok but at 10 months in Gaza is murder.

You write
'Like humans aren't born with consciences or the ability to reflect on past events as individuals?'

Does not seem to have helped you. Your ability to twist the truth is amazing.

Hi runner,

Religious indoctrination is well known, "get'm while they're young" they say. I was baptised a Catholic at 4 days old. Much of what AC's says is true. On the question of abortion, I take an even handed view, not in favour of abortion on demand, then I do see where in certain medical circumstances it is necessary. Your claim that abortions are taking place up until birth is false, certain in Australia, can you provide evidence?

I am disguised with the attitude of Christian Church's towards paedophilia, both past cases, and what is taking place presently. The current case of Christopher Saunders, the Catholic Bishop of Broome, found guilty of paedophilia, the Vatican should have excommunicated the bastard immediately. Like with thousands of other convicted clergy, the Pope says nothing, and takes no action.

p/s A couple of years ago, I asked an Anglican priest, about paedophilia in his church, his reaction was; "Its something I don't talk about, its in the past." No its not, its rife among Christian "missionaries" in third world countries, today.

Hi runner,

I never said I supported abortion, like its some freedom we celebrate, like democracy.
I simply said willfully murdering other peoples kids is far worse than terminating ones own pregnancy.

You're the one bringing Aussie women and abortion it, like somehow that argument absolves Israel of its mass killings of other people kids.
How ridiculous, completely screwed up logic.

'It's ok for Israel to shoot 8 year olds with sniper rifles in the head, because Aussie women get abortions.'
- Are you a few beers short of a carton? No offense.

'You can't talk about Israel like that, because Australian women are having abortions - don't you know - ABORTIONS!'

Your position is pretty arrogant and ridiculous as well you know.
It seems like you think that if a woman allowed you to get in there without a condom even just once that she's now obligated to carry your baby for 9 months like a vessel and then raise it for you like her whole entire purpose in life was to serve you getting your load off.
Is that what you think?

I'm not a leftist, I hold different positions on different issues.
I'm not defined by the boxes other people use to pigeon-hole each other.
I don't really care about left or right, progressive or conservative.

Like if I support the Palestinians I'm a leftist.
Or if I support lower immigration I support the right.
I don't support either the left or the right, I don't support their 'gang mentality'.
I don't want to be a part of the screwed up lefts 'gang'
And I don't want to be part of the lost and confused rights 'gang'.
I hold different positions on different topics, end of story.
I don't follow a mindset of being progressive for the sake of being progressive, or being conservative for the sake of being conservative.

Hi Paul

Indoctrination comes in numerous forms. Whether it comes in the form of religion, god denying or socialism. Mr Science along with many of his colleagues have shown they as just as corrupt as any paedophile priest. He along with numerous others are responsible for mass murder through the mrna clot/cancer triggering shots. Also a number of the high priest atheist (ethicist) were regular visitors to Epsteins island.

You seemed obsessed with the Catholic church. Paedophile is at much higher rates in Indigenous, alphabet and Muslim communities. My view is that of Jesus. 'But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6

I also think the only thing worse than Paedophile is people who wrongly smear others with such a heinous crime. That is what made me so sick when the deviants in the Victorian Government and the alphabet crew used outright lies to convict Pell.

Yes, there is a problem.
But humans are able to work there way through problems like this.
At least I think that is the case.
I considered my life to be a mess, until I decided to be absolutely truthful with myself.
I questioned internally most of the things I had been taught.
I saw the absurdity of many of them.
Finally I settled in to a comfortable and logical state of mind.
I aim to be progressive and constructive, and avoid those things which cause loss rather than gain.
My impression is that the world in general is growing away from violence as a cure-all.
It is a slow process, but there are those making it happen.
People who resort to violence and killing as a means of expressing their annoyance are just plain wrong.
And worse are those who use those things to attempt takeover of another country.
The means used by those in ancient times to make what they thought was progress, is indeed suspect by today's standards.
No, I don't think Alexander the Great was someone to be admired.
The human race came from the animal kingdom, where disagreement is settled by aggression and conflict.
Those things must be left behind us, if we are to live peaceful and productive lives.
Progress must be by discussion, which in turn leads to logical conclusion.
And I think we are capable of following that path every day.

Hi runner,

Yes, there are paedophiles in much of society, some of the worse cases have been uncovered in pre-schools, much to our shame. The situation in some indigenous communities is also sickening.

As for socialism, I believe that Jesus was a "socialists" in his own way; "Do unto others as you would have then do unto you" sounds very socialistic. Many early Christian missionaries were socialistic towards native people, sometimes they were very condescending towards them, but did support them as Christians.

My wife is both a Socialists and a Christian.

Paul you write

'As for socialism, I believe that Jesus was a "socialists" in his own way; "Do unto others as you would have then do unto you" sounds very socialistic. Many early Christian missionaries were socialistic

I think it always gets back to definitions. Personally, I don't think Jesus was a socialist or a capitalist as such. He spoke very much of the kingdom of God rather than the politics of the day. In saying that He exposed the corrupt religious rulers of the day along with the evil of the Caesar. He did though call for repentance for all people revealing how corrupt the heart of man was/is.

Whatever your political views I guarantee He never endorsed sodomy, cutting breasts of young girls or killing the unborn. He is appalled by people and Pollies who support such evil. Yes, He did indeed address greed, lust, unforgiveness and other heart issues which socialist and capitalist are guilt of. Bottom line is all need to come to repentance not just Catholic Priest paedophiles which you often use in order to deflect from others who are just as filthy.

"Whatever your political views I guarantee He never endorsed sodomy"
- Yes but can you denounce Israel when they do it, bible boy?

'Numerous international bodies, human rights organizations, and investigative reports have documented accounts and evidence of sexual violence, including sodomy and severe sexual abuse, committed against Palestinian detainees by Israeli forces'

- Because if you cant, if your claimed morals stop at Israel's doorstep and at that point you go into 'willful ignorance' mode, then I say all your claimed morals are nothing more than a front for your own religious bias, and that essentially either you're a fraud or your religion is.

Hi runner,

We don't know what Jesus endorsed or didn't endorse, what we get today is a second hand interpretation and extrapolation of the teachings of Jesus, with the Jesus named added to give it legitimacy. Many people over many centuries have subtracted and added to the Jesus story, some of it good, some simply to justify the accepted social and political norms of the day. The true story of Jesus has been bastardised over the past two millennia to the point where today the truth of what Jesus was preaching in the region of Galilee two thousand years ago is unknown in many respects.

As for politics and religion, at that time the two were totally interconnected, religion was political, politics was religion. Jesus would have preached a religious/political message, which would have brought him into conflict with the authorities, both Hebrew and Roman, which resulted in his execution.

I believe Jesus was a "reformer", wanting to reform Judaism, based on its biblical roots. He was also a preacher of limited social justice as he seen it at the time, somewhat anti-establishment. I also believe as a religious reformer Jesus was not intent on starting a new religion called Christianity, but his objective was to correct the wrongs of his accepted religion Judaism.

Christians can't do it.
For all their claimed morals they can't criticise Israel.
That's the REAL 'morals test' for Christians, denounce what Israel does.

Support a rogue terrorist state that murders women and kids and any journalist who tried to report it, or support what Jesus taught.
Which one is it?
- There's no grey area.

You either set yourself apart from Israeli actions in the spirit of what Jesus taught, or you give what Israel does your tacit approval.

Christians must have some cognitive dissonance going on I think.
Their brains can't compute and they just stand there like a deer in headlights.

Imagine a child was in the pool drowning.
Do you stand there like a deer in headlights?

When tested, their claimed morals don't mean anything.
They can't even stand against the murder of women, kids and babies.
'Oh but Aussie women are getting abortions'

They either don't even know right from wrong, or are incapable of doing what's right when it counts.
They just stand there and piss themselves, or run away.

And they hide behind this.
'I oppose abortion'...

and this,

'But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were drowned in the depth of the sea. Matthew 18:6
Hide behind

- Thinking nobody sees the hypocrisy.

Were you silent when Israel was murdering innocent people?
If so, don't preach to me about morals.