As the smartest leader in the West, Trump took a long time to realise that it is a waste of time and effort even thinking that lunatics can be negotiated with.

“Terms of surrender”. Ha de ha ha. Muslim fanatics don't surrender. They might pretend to in order to muscle up again, but nothing short of total destruction will stop them from serialising their atrocities for as long as they draw breath. There is no place for Islam in a civilised world.

"which could materially advance the end of both the US-Israel- Iran War and 130 years of unresolved conflict between Arabs and Jews."

130 years? Try 1404 years. The Jews were the first non-Arabic victims of the 'Religion of Peace' </sarc>

David's becoming more and more detached from reality.
- Just repeats Trumps lies.

The U.S. doesn't have enough troops to invade Iran.
Furthermore the U.S. public wouldn't support it, they didn't want this war to begin with.
Trump campaigned against 'regime changes' and against 'endless M/E wars',
(MAGA's dead already, just a shell of Israel firsters, and FOX news)

Even if the U.S. could find the troops, they doesn't have the weapons.
Fighting this war would result in them being unable to fight others.
Nor do they the time, the global economy will implode.

And if Trump continues anymore with this he loses the midterms and gets impeached..

David's asking the U.S. to write cheques it can't possibly cash.
- And sending the whole entire world the bill, to pay a price for Greater Israel.

How many people from less developed countries will starve with reduced food harvests in the coming season?
Israel doesn't care about consequences to others, and Iran is not going to surrender.

Go ahead destroy the petrodollar properly.
Show the Gulf states you can't protect them.
Let Israel be more hated by Americans and lose U.S. support entirely.
They can keep blaming everyone and screaming hysterically about Anti-Semitism.

The deranged occupant of the White House is being mislead by those around him and cares more about his Israeli donors and exposure of the Epstein files than much else.

Prof John Mearsheimer: We've Lost the Iran War, We're Screwed
http://www.youtube.com/live/antJCYNLZbE

Israel's a horrible nation.

It manufactures terrorists and anti-Semites - the same problems it complains about, meanwhile it is the perpetrator that always claims victimhood.

How does it manufacture terrorists?

Simple, conduct acts of violence and oppression upon others, including torture, and most importantly, DENY THEM DUE PROCESS.
If you deny them a fair day in court, you deny them justice and force them to seek it by other means.

How does it manufacture anti-Semites?

Crosses every red line that civilised countries recognise as seperating themselves from total barbarity.
Deliberately killing women, kids, babies, journalists, medical responders, doctors, commits rape, torture, land theft, starvation, witholding of medicine, bombs refugee camps, kills people seeking food. The list just goes on an on...
These people think 'babies in the womb' are terrorists.
Then they call people that won't turn a blind eye and stand against these barbaric actions 'anti-semites' as an attempt to bully anyone into silence, so they can continue their ethnic cleansing and other horrible atrocities unchallenged.

Israel is like a man who beats his wife and tells her that she's the problem.

http://x.com/Lynyrd_Washyntn/status/2043496186926047615
'Imagine being so vile, sneaky and disgusting that laws have to be created to keep normal people from hating and condemning you'.

If I'm asked 'Do I think Israel has a right to exist?'
- I'll probably say that 'It probably doesn't deserve to.'

'Did Nazi Germany have a right to exist?'
- What a stupid question.

Plenty of reasons here for concern.
http://watermeloncrimes.com/archives

"nothing short of total destruction will stop them from serialising their atrocities for as long as they draw breath. There is no place for Islam in a civilised world."

I realise the above is nothing more than the ravings of a powerless Old Fart, but with 2 billion Muslims in the world, their total destruction, no place in a civilised world. How would he achieve that?

Trump has declared:
"Iran's Navy is lying at the bottom of the Sea, their Air Force is demolished"

Irans Air Force is not demolished.
Trumps still living in the WWII era, that's why they're losing.

Iran still has a huge air force.
The only difference is they've found out its cheaper and more effective to use the pilotless one-way versions..

Hi AC,

Correct again, the Iranians also have a navy of 3,000 to 5,000 "ships"; "fast-attack craft designed for swarm tactics in the Persian Gulf. These include heavily armed Boghammar vessels and smaller, rapid, armed boats, with hundreds more being added recently to bolster asymmetric maritime capabilities."

The Iranians also have an "Air Force"; "Several thousand drones to potentially over 10,000, with some reports suggesting an operational fleet of up to 80,000. Iran has launched thousands of drones during recent conflicts and possesses the capacity to produce hundreds of Shahed-class drones monthly."

So the Americans, Admiral Brassbottom, and Captain Ramjet, better watch out, a tinny with an eggbeater on the back, and a flying garbage tin, can stop a 250,000 tonne oil tanker, Sink Admiral Brassbottom in his battle ship, and knock Captain Ramjet out of the sky.

I agree, I think Dangerous Doctor Donald is "living the dream" and begging for a way out of the sh!t he's got America into.

P/S And Donald thought Bibi was a nice guy, when he said; "Donny don't worry, it all will over in 2 shakes of the dogs leg...trust me!"

Well whatd'ya know. It turns out my grandkids have an airforce and their father has a navy.

Funny though.... a few months back when I pointed out the Chinese navy was bigger than the US, Paul poo-poohed the idea by saying their navy was primarily small boats. Must be nice to have such flexible opinions.

Meanwhile, ignoring the lunatic Quisling fringe, we find that despite unresearched claims (actually unresearched hopes) that Trump is desperate for an off-ramp, yesterday Trump rejected the latest peace proposal from whoever is calling themselves the leader of Iran today.

* Trump desperate to end the war on any terms
* Trump rejects peace proposal.

Thinking those two things are equally true requires herculean doses of doublethink.

The facts are that Trump has effectively instituted a nation-wide siege against Iran and is prepared to sit back and let it take its course. Anyone studying ancient and medieval history inevitably ends up studying sieges and the processes behind them. The besieged often think they can hang out longer than the besiegers right up to the moment they realise they can't. In the ancient world that was when the food and/or water ran out. In the modern world its when the economy collapses and, in the case of Iran, when your major source of revenue, oil wells, begin to fail.

Idiots talking about a US land invasion of Iran prove they don't understand anything about what's going on.

Hi Trumpster,

The navy is whatever is most effective, be it Admiral Donald Brassbottom in his Battleship, or the Ayatollah Cuckoo in his run-about. In this war the run-about's are winning the Battle of the Sea.
Remember it was a biplane the Fairey Swordfish that torpedoed the German battleship Bismark.

When you have to rely on a couple of shifty real estate agents as your negotiators, you're sunk! Dangerous Doctor Donald is looking for an OFF RAMP, unfortunately DDD is flying down the EMERGENCY RAMP and about to hit the concrete barrier at 100 clicks an hour. And he's not wearing a seat belt! P/S Its okay, Bibi's in the back seat, also with no seat belt, windscreen here we come.

Trumpster, you don't know what to say, so you resort to ANCIENT HISTORY. Next thing you'll be talking about the glorious victory of the Israelite's at the Battle Of Jericho in 1500BC.

"Idiots talking about a US land invasion of Iran prove they don't understand anything about what's going on" That's Donald and his gang for you.

In the latest development Bibi has Donald locked in the closet and has taken the key. Wont let his out unless he agrees to nuk the Iranians.

"so you resort to ANCIENT HISTORY"

Sorry Paul. It obviously went over your head. Let me try to dumb it down for you:

What the US is doing is effectively a siege. Studying history (you should try it some time) shows how sieges often progress so it makes sense to look at the past to understand the present.

Or you can make up idiotic claims about Trump being locked in a room to try to hide your lack of understanding.... after all your fantasy world makes much more sense to you that the real world.

"Dangerous Doctor Donald is looking for an OFF RAMP"

Which is why he just rejected a proposed peace deal. Doublethink lives.

Is this another one of those 'Trump is negotiating with himself again' things?
Can you give me any confirmation of this so called peace offer, do you have an X.com tweet from Araghchi or Ghalibaf?

I take whatever Trump says with a generous spoon of salt.
In fact it'd be more honest to simply say it's 90% bs, and the 10% left over, well he'll probably change his mind tomorrow.

Imagine actually believing what Trump says.
Ahahaha, mhaze you're funneh.

"Dangerous Doctor Donald is looking for an OFF RAMP"
- He is, but Netanyahu wants to continue because Trump hasn't achieved anything.
Netanyahu has been trying to get the U.S. to fight Iran for it for decades, and not keen on walking away empty handed with Iran in a better position than when they started.
And Netayahu's donors are also Trumps donors.

Maybe Trumps talking bs about this 'peace deal' mhaze, because he's at the 60 day mark of the war powers act.
He needs to convince lawmakers he's winning, I'm not sure if war funding is tied to this approval.

Trump says deadline for Congress to approve Iran war doesn't apply, claiming hostilities have 'terminated'
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-says-deadline-for-congress-to-approve-iran-war-doesnt-apply-claiming-hostilities-have-terminated

Yep, something like that...
Charter boat? What charter boat?
Trump: 'Can we reset the clock?'

I think the War Powers Act gives a President 60 days to 'not screw things up',
If he's looking like being successful after 60 days, lawmakers are all 'Yes, we support this, great job President Trump! Team AMERICA!'
If it's a complete debacle they're backing away instead saying 'We never went along with this foolish moronic man and his foolish moronic plan! The President has lost his mind and needs to be impeached!

It gives them an out.
But since this is a war by and for the Israel lobby, probably nothing much will come of it.
Israel and U.S. will probably attack Iran again soon.

"Can you give me any confirmation of this so called peace offer,"

You've gotta be kidding. Now you're going to deny widely reported facts in order to maintain your hopes....

"IRNA – The Islamic Republic of Iran says that it has delivered its latest proposal for negotiations based on efforts to end the war to Pakistan."

http://en.irna.ir/news/86142591/Iran-submits-new-proposal-to-Pakistani-mediator ..... and literally 100s of other news agencies.

What do you do when the facts don't match your fantasies....ignore the facts.

'Trump wants an off ramp'.
'Trump rejects an off ramp'. Oh no. I don't want that to be true so I'll pretend it didn't happen. And that AC is how you end up misunderstanding so much of what's going on in the world.

Hmm, thanks for the link.

I think Iran are following Russia's approach of going through the motions of showing themselves open to agreements whilst also not trusting the U.S. one bit and being prepared for anything.
They likely know an agreement won't be reached and both sides are just rearming and preparing for the next skirmish.

Maybe this peace deal you're mentioning was a plan Iran supposedly outlined to gain trust and slowly move back towards opening the strait and other steps in stages, that I may have heard mention of somewhere earlier in the week.

I'm not sure whether Iran actually believes any deal will be reached, with Israel dictating things and I'm not sure Trump can just sit on his hands with his silly blockade and wait it out forever either.

They've got this new hypersonic missile they've been bragging that they will test on Iran, so I guess they're planning on using the Israeli tactics and blowing up some more schools, hospitals and universities soon.

Trump hasn't really achieved much except kill all the moderates, get the Strait closed, gotten smacked across the face with bases destroyed , aircraft and personnel lost.
Iran are looking pretty defiant despite both the media and Trump trying to paint things differently.
I think Russia and China probably think Iran has fared better than expected so far.

The U.S. has suffered the most humiliating attacks against it in decades, and it was retaliation for a fight where they threw the first punch.

Inside Trump’s “Final Blow” to Break the Tehran Standoff
http://www.jfeed.com/news-world/us-iran-military-escalation

Since deposing US puppet the Shah in 1979, a leading priority for Iranians has been to stop Yanks from worming their way back into making Iran subservient to Washington again. Meanwhile, they have been watching US bullying in other countries and preparing for armed attempts to take control. Important measures included decentralised chains of command so that if an enemy managed to kill leaders, others can readily take over. Yanks seemed to think that if top officials were taken out, Iranians would rise up and install a US friendly administration. Has had the opposite effect with them rallying behind their government against foreign interference. Now consider preparations managed despite many years of sanctions. Especially building up a very large arsenal of drones and missiles. Re cheap drones especially, even of only a few of maybe swarms successfully hit targets, important result was US and Israel rapidly using up limited supplies of very expensive interceptors. Which cannot be replaced quickly. Enormous damage has been done to US military facilities and capability in the area. Regarding possible "regime change", seems to me by the end of this year will be likely in the US and Israel. Democrats will probably gain more power in US mid term elections and move to impeach Trump. Who seems to be showing signs of dementia. I saw a report claiming Trump's niece reckoned deterioration is similar to that of his father /her grandfather. Re Trump thinking himself deserving a Nobel Peace prize, seems has a prerequisite some other recipients have had. ie War criminal type achievements. However, could be unwittingly deserving of one for facilitating the downfall of the world's leading promoter of wars, the Criminal Apartheid Zionist Settler State in Occupied Palestine. Re Netanyahu, if put out of power at election later this year, it will enable prosecutors in Israel to push ahead with corruption charges pending against him. Would be good if they could also send him to the International Criminal Court to face war crimes charges.

Time for Netanyahu to surrender his Prime Ministership to Israeli justice.

>>'Trump wants an off ramp'.
'Trump rejects an off ramp'. Oh no. I don't want that to be true so I'll pretend it didn't happen. And that AC is how you end up misunderstanding so much of what's going on in the world.<<

I've known 6 year old girls that are more mature than you mhaze.
I already responded to your question before you threw a tantrum.
Trump rejects Iran's position for an end of the conflict based on the 10 point plan.
Iran haven't changed their negotiation position.
Trump couldn't even restrain Israel from attacking Lebanon.

Trump's had off ramps, but none that don't now leave him walking away in defeat, they pushed diplomacy aside for regime change.

It looks like Trump is going to accept a deal from the Iranian worse than the Obama 2015 deal he tore up. Of course Trump will try as he always does, and claim its such a fantastic deal only he could negotiate.

So AC, now that you've been dragged kicking and screaming to the realisation that there was a peace offer, can we get back to my main point that you and Paul tried so hard to avoid....namely that you can't simultaneously know that there was a peace offer that Trump rejected while maintaining that Trump is desperately trying to get out of the war.

I know that you won't accept this doublethink, but it's still worthwhile pointing it out.

What would also be worthwhile pointing out is that, until I dragged you kicking and screaming to the facts of the peace offer, your 'sources' kept it from you ie they, like you, were prepared to ignore facts in order to maintain a fiction.

The Iranian economy is in disarray....
"Government revenue has dried up just as the needs of its population are rising.

The war has thrown around one million people out of work directly and another million indirectly, according to early estimates cited by Gholamhossein Mohammadi, an official at Iran’s Labor and Social-Affairs ministry. That is a significant portion of the roughly 25 million people who are normally employed in Iran.

The cost of living has soared, with the annual inflation rate reaching 67 percent in the month through mid-April from the same period a year earlier, according to Iran’s central bank. The subsidized price of red meat, which was mostly imported through sea routes, has gone up to the equivalent of around $3.60 a pound, beyond the reach of most in a country where the minimum wage is around $130 a month.

“Living is not affordable anymore,” said Mahdi Ghodsi of the Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies. “Iran is at its weakest point.”

Businesses across the country — from manufacturers to retailers — are closing, residents said. The lack of steel and other raw materials is hampering production in various industries. Electronic goods, which are mostly imported, are in short supply and expensive."

Additionally, the US is now systematically freezing and seizing cryptocurrency accounts held off-shore by the IRGC and their leaders as well as taking possession of villas held in France and Britain by Iranian mullahs. "Because nothing screams ‘Death to the Great Satan!’ quite like yelling it from the balcony of your six-bedroom chateau in Cannes while sipping mimosas and checking your crypto wallet."

"The Iranian economy is in disarray....
'Government revenue has dried up just as the needs of its population are rising.

The war has thrown around one million people out of work directly and another million indirectly, according to early estimates cited by Gholamhossein Mohammadi, an official at Iran’s Labor and Social-Affairs ministry."

Tell me mhaze what went through you head as you thought and wrote that?
Do you feel a sense of victory for an outcome that pleases you.

Do you think they will just surrender?
Do you think Khomeini will be going hungry?
The reason so many are out of work is because America and Israel weren't attacking military targets, they were attacking industries.

You want to tell me you support the U.S. engineering a currency collapse, support western farsi speaking intelligence assets (Mossad, CIA) co-opting protests to start shooting and beheading police, killing protesters you can later blame on the 'evil regime', setting fire to government buildings, attack schools, hospitals, universities, assassinate majority of the leadership, including more moderate leaders, to a country of 90 million people who are only a few weeks away from getting 'the bomb', and control the Strait of Hormuz.

And why?

Because Israel via Netanyahu, has a plan with the West to attack and overthrow all nations supporting the Palestinians, and providing a measure of pushback to Israels genocide.

At the core of this entire mess is an 'end's justifies the means' attitude by the deranged psychotic terrorist nation Israel, hell bent on ethnic cleaning for land theft.

That's why Hezbollah and Hamas are named terrorists by western vassal-state leaders, because they defend the Palestinians.

Just the same as Defense for Children International Palestine was labelled a terrorist organisation, because it exposed systemic culture of rape and abuse of Palestinians held hostage without charge or due process.

If you take pride, pleasure or accomplishement in others suffering, than this shows who you really are.

Following the German Chancellor's crack that the U.S was being humiliated by Iran, President Trump has decided to remove 5,000 U.S troops from Germany. The German is now bleating that they need the troops. Well, tough. Germany, Europe and other fair weather allies have been glad of U.S support, and they and NATO have been bludging off the U.S ever since WW11. Now, when America wants a little bit of help, the bludgers, including Australia, might find out that what Trump says about them, and what he will do to the ingrates, is not all bluff.

What would happen if Iran siad to themselves we're sick of playing defense, and instead went on the offense?

What would happen if Mojtaba Khomeini gave the order to rescind the fatwa and immediately build nukes, change the equation to mutually assured destruction.

What would happen if they went on the offense?
Said you want to destroy our nation, we can play that game.
You've tried to destroy our nation, attacked us economically and killed our leaders including the Ayatollah.

They've already syopped traffic in the Persion Gulf
What happens if they also close Bab el Mandeb

And what happens if they 'somehow' put a submarine to sea and 'somehow' started blowing up the U.S. offshore drilling platforms in the Gulf of Mexico which produced three quarters of a million barrels last year.

Is the U.S. 40 trillion debt and their economy, centered around oil, not their Achilles heel?

Does the U.S. economy and political situation detonate?

I wonder how much damage Iran could do to that blockade, if they really tried.
Get one ship to peel off chasing a oil tanker and then hit it with 1000 drones. How hard is it to hit the radar and take Aegis down.

This is part of why there's a race with AI, so they can simulate potential outcomes.

So AC now agrees that the Iranian economy is in disarray and that its due to the efforts of the US and Israel. But in the next breathe he'll assert that the US is losing the war and Iran is revelling at its victory. Go figure.

Then, hilariously, AC enters Fantasyland to try to re-write the facts of the war ...."And what happens if they 'somehow' put a submarine to sea and 'somehow' started blowing up the U.S. offshore drilling platforms in the Gulf of Mexico which produced three quarters of a million barrels last year."

I have to admit that my greatest concern is that the Iranians enter into an alliance with the Klingons to attack the Federation.

It seems my mocking of AC for his fantasyland musing on Iran blowing up US oil rigs was premature.

Now we find that Iran is planning on using suicide dolphins to attack their enemies... http://tiny.cc/w7s2101

I also hear that they are getting ready to release ill-tempered bass with frickin' laser beams... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INFavIUmhcE

Things are bad, but not that bad, they're managing.
They get discounted fuel at a few cents a litre and the government is giving people subsidies because of the war, there aren't any food shortages. Everything you hear about them being on their 'last legs' is exaggeraed and the 'if we just sanction or attack them a little more' is hopeful bs to keep you gullible schmucks supporting a fools errand at any cost, because this has been a neoconservative plan for decades.

Remember when Trump said he'd end the war in Ukraine on his first day?
You still hang on every word he says like gospel, but Trumps basically just full of shite; when he isn't flip-flopping like a windsock taking his orders and reprimands from Netanyahu.

How many kids are still dying in Gaza every day?
They are not people to you, not even statistics.
Don't exist at all.

Don't be so sure that U.S and Israeli bs washes with Iran.
They won't kneel for the U.S. and Israel, I think they are just as prepared to go to go back to war, and go down as martyrs if need be.

I think they are just as happy to abuse and humiliate Trump as Merz pointed out. (Trump can't handle truth, such a child).

Iran will just say 'Why don't you send your armies you weak pathetic gutless yellow peedo. Come fight us properly, you coward!'

Netanyahu’s TOP AIDE Celebrates 50th Birthday IN THE MOST TWISTED WAY POSSIBLE!
http://youtu.be/kFPcS3R9LdI

Mate, this stuffs deranged.

This bloke would be great friends with Adolf Eichmanm, the so-called father of the final solution.
(If the Germans weren't killing Jews of course.)
They really do have a lot in common you know.

To be as evil as 'some/many/most' Jews are, a person would have to be loading them into gas chambers and celebrating the event with gas chamber themed birthday cakes.

These lunatics need Nuremberg trials and to hang by their own gold nooses, the lapen pins of which they wear with great pride.

Honestly, I don't know why all Western nations haven't cut diplomatic ties with this terrorist regime in Israel, they are all too weak and gutless to practice any of what they preach.

Western defenders of human rights my ass.

Oh look that Jewish girl that was mocking the Palestinians when they were leveling Gaza had her house (and family?) blown up.

http://x.com/Jvnior/status/2048908120110301187

That's harsh karma, but then I think of the Palestinian 14yo shot out the front of school yesterday, and all the others every other day and I have little sympathy for her.

'Why don't you send your armies you weak pathetic gutless yellow peedo. Come fight us properly, you coward!'

Hi AC,

Isn't that what the Russians say about the Ukrainians? As the Ukrainians are showing, smart weapons and smart strategies are critical. I believe that Ukraine has the advantage in drone warfare and is using that advantage to paralyse Russian logistics around Donetsk. I suspect that Trump will be content maintaining a siege on Iran. The cost of maintaining the luxurious and decadent lifestyles of regime families in western countries must be enormous.

And another problem for Russia in Ukraine is the accuracy of their missiles and guided bombs.

https://youtu.be/hf28d4eZ9ic?si=y2K8LXb79IizrCUH

Iran and the US of A have different goals.
These goals so different that compromise is not possible.
The only way to end conflict permanently is for the stronger side to drive the other in to submission.
It is world war two all over again.
It means destroying the weaker side's ability to defend itself.
Then the weaker side will either surrender or face virtual annihilation.
That is the only logical way for it to go.
A partial compromise now would lead to considerable unrest in the future.
That is highly undesirable.
I don't know why there are so many who keep bleating about a peaceful solution.
That cannot and will not happen.
It is not happening.
There are rare times when countries must stand up and be counted.
This is one of those times.
They must now work collectively towards a common goal.
I wish them every success.

Hi AC,

Consider these two scenarios.

Scenario one. Russia leaves Ukraine and all hostilities stop between the two nations.

Scenario two. The US and Israel stop their siege of Iran. Iran holds traffic in the Strait of Hormuz to ransom for safe passage. Iran maintains the control and abuse of its citizens, including having school children chant "death to America, death to Israel" as part of their school days. Iran maintains its role as an international sponsor of terrorism, which has included acts against Australia, although the US and Israel have always been the main targets. Iran continues its development of nuclear weapons. Iran will do all these things with the support of Russia and China.

The Victory Parade in Red Square should be quite a spectacle this year.

Hi Fester,
I did see your comment to me.
I haven't been keeping as good tabs on Russia and Ukraine for the last month or so, and I had been getting the feeling that Russias war in Ukraine seemed to be slipping or making little progress.

I don't know all the reasons for it and haven't been watching daily battle map updates to watch the daily progress.
I did read that Ukraine has lost 150500 killed and wounded from the 1st January till yesterday...

I've considered your scenarios.
Scenario 1 is unrealistic. Russia will not give up territory its holds which is already considered Russian in their constitution without force.

Scenario 2 is more complicated and I think there's a number of misconceptions there.

'Iran holds traffic in the Strait of Hormuz to ransom for safe passage.'
- It's not being held to ransom, it's a change of management policies.
Certain nations that supported sanctions and regime change and helped facilitate a plan to 'destroy their civilisation' must now pay reparations / reconstruction costs for an illegal war of aggression made against them, via tolls.

"Iran maintains the control and abuse of its citizens, including having school children chant 'death to America, death to Israel" as part of their school days."
- I don't think its as bad as you make it out to be, and I don't have much of a problem with what they say if there's merit behind it, they're words not actions.
Gaza isn't words it's a deliberate choice.
'Iran maintains its role as an international sponsor of terrorism'
I don't necessarily consider defending people from invasion and occupation / as equating to terrorism.
I don't support Israels genocide and ethnic cleansing for land theft.
I don't accept the Australian and Israeli Mossad claims that the synogogue door attack was Iranian state sponsored terrorism.
I'm not certain Iran were developing nuclear weapons, (US intelligence agencies say they weren't) or whether they wanted a bargaining chip to get sanctions removed, but if they weren't maybe they should've been.

Hi AC,

The point of the scenarios was to suggest that Russia can get out of Ukraine more easily than the US and Israel can get out of Iran.

As far as Ukraine is concerned, the advantage has gone one way and another. Currently it seems to be with Ukraine. There seems to be a more effective array of drones and missiles, with much increased range, employed with effective strategies. Jamming technologies are making Russia's weapons much less accurate. Russia is also losing troops faster than they can be replaced, so another mobilisation might be needed. Things will probably change, but how much advantage might Ukraine gain before they do?