Fanatic Muslims and fanatic Leftists are ruling the West; inclusive of Trump, with his fanatical clueless hold over Israel, and a dance with the devils of money, the Arabs.

Trump is hopelessly compromised, and sadly can’t be trusted with outcomes in the ME, which benefits Israeli necessities, and long term goals.

Netanyahu is the master of “digging in his heels” , that is an only bright light.

A long term goal of Israel is to declare sovereignty over the entirety of the West Bank, and now an opportunity to reestablish settlements behind the yellow line in Gaza initially, and continue to ignore calls for improving the comfort zone of Palestinians, who have proved their worthless value!

Forget the Two State solution, and this idea of an HKOP., unless in future, Israel can roll it at a point in history when world events detract from the view.

"Implementing HKOPS 2022 in Judea and Samaria (West Bank) boils down to redrawing the existing international border between Israel and Jordan – with no one – Jew or Arab – having to leave his current residence."

Yeah right, do you actually expect anyone to believe this?
Israel will be happy, no Palestinian will have to move.

Lets all sing Kumbaya.

I'm sure Israel has every intention of establishing Greater Israel within it's biblical borders and will keep trying to do so even if it takes another million years.
If that's how long the genocide takes, a million years...
Then that what the Israelis would be willing to do.
Who the hell are you kidding David?

AC

#I'm sure Israel has every intention of establishing Greater Israel within it's biblical borders and will keep trying to do so even if it takes another million years.#

Israel has six million reasons for doing just that, and rising.

Does everyone here realise that "Greater Israel" never existed?

The Bible claims that Israel and Judea were once one country, but only from the 13th century BC until the death of King Solomon in 931BC.

It also claims that it was King David (reigning 1010-970BC) who enlarged Israel+Judea's borders and bequeathed that large kingdom to his son Solomon.

So even if such a big kingdom existed, then it was for under 79 years.

Archaeology, however, debunks the claim that the kingdoms of Judea and Israel were ever united or had common ancestors. Before that, both kingdoms were much smaller.

Before King David: http://www.historyofisrael.com/images/Kingdom-of-Saul-Map.png

Solomon's alleged maximal kingdom: http://www.smp.org/resourcecenter/resource/1733/?srsltid=AfmBOopnmgRYDYrcaNgnUgJW5isZBr4zCsxGTm7rUrDfn1svJbchJ2tT

Immediately after the Biblical "split": http://www.conformingtojesus.com/images/webpages/divided_kingdom_of_israel_and_judah.jpg

The kingdom of Israel was ended by the Assyrian empire in 722BC and then only the kingdom of Judea remained.

If every group of people were to insist that all territories ever belonging to any of their ancestors must be theirs, then this planet would need to expand and become at least 50 times bigger...

Yuyutsu

Let’s say for the sake of the argument, you are correct. What point are you making?

In terms and influence on modern history the critical period of Jewish history, is the era of the Roman Empire, and its influence on politics and course of Jewish history, throughout that period to the modern State of Israel.

Certainly there were no Muslims in the home front until the sixth Century. It’s the Muslims causing the disruptions over their false ownership claims. Jews were on the land long before that event.

Dear Dan,

«Let’s say for the sake of the argument, you are correct. What point are you making?»

I was just setting the record straight:

Different people may like Israel to become larger, smaller or even non-existent for a variety of contemporary political reasons.
They are all entitled to their views, just not falsely base them on incorrect historical assumptions.

«In terms and influence on modern history the critical period of Jewish history, is the era of the Roman Empire,»

Why that period in particular?
During Roman times, Judaism as we know it today had not yet existed!

«and its influence on politics and course of Jewish history, throughout that period to the modern State of Israel.»

Are you speaking of Jewish history or Judaic history - they are not the same!

«Certainly there were no Muslims in the home front until the sixth Century.»

In fact Islam (also Judaism as we know it today) did not exist before the 790's in the earliest.

«It’s the Muslims causing the disruptions over their false ownership claims. Jews were on the land long before that event.»

Before around 800AD, there were neither Muslims nor Jews in existence: their respective ancestors were Judeans.

Some Judeans migrated to Europe and some remained in Israel.
Most European Judeans eventually became Jewish while the Judeans that remained in Israel (except for one family) eventually became Muslim.
(in fact, many of those now claiming to be "Palestinians" have descended from those same Judeans)