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Albanese's 'productivity' summit: a political show with no substance : Comments

By Scott Prasser, published 22/8/2025

Rather than attend, the Opposition should have run its own summit — a true government-in-waiting would set the agenda, not follow it.

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One point 45 million low-skilled migration in three years. SIX times higher than it should be, nearly TWICE as high as the Rudd onslaught. With over-investment in the housing bubble still being firm national policy.

That's the main answer to Labor's productivity "puzzle" right there, but it's Not Allowed at the performative roundtable. if you protest, Burke and Aly will smear you as a racist, as un-Australian. They even got the ABS to write to journalists, trying to intimidate them out of any immigration criticism.
Posted by Steve S, Friday, 22 August 2025 8:11:23 AM
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Is because it's Friday that we are seeing "puff" pieces of opinions?

The author asks if the productivity summit is "a political show with no substance".

He states "Unwisely, the coalition opposition is participating in the summit party" and adds " the Opposition should have run their own summit".

He concludes, however, "the Albanese government - ...is focused, strategic, networked and politically skilled - and wins".

It begs the question - what is the author's point? Won't the summit only make the government even more focused, strategic, networked and politically skilled?

Was Scott not invited to the summit?
Posted by WTF? - Not Again, Friday, 22 August 2025 8:32:42 AM
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“Too often during the 2025 election we saw the coalition get its policy cues from the government and not just match the government's policies and spending sprees but sometimes promise them even more”.

That sums up the uniparty. There is no opposition in Australia. The very fact that O'Brien was mixed up in the Labor talkfest is a disgrace. With his sort, and Ley, the coalition will be between a Liberal and Labor.

Treasurer Charmless's intended version of “capitalism” is similar to the China model, and his Dear Leader is chock-a-block up Xi. The intention to turn Australia into an authoritarian hell is so overt, that voters at the last election must have wanted it - or, they are even more gormless than I think they are.

And all the non-politicians at the ‘summit’, big business, bureaucrats etc, are just for show. Also fools, they think there will be something in it for them, when everything that Albanese stages is all about entrenching his ultra-left regime.

“ …the Opposition should have run their own summit”, should it? What's left of the “opposition” couldn't run a chook raffle, as their election campaign and pathetic new “leader” show.

Australia is well and truly rooted. Australians have allowed politicians to become their masters, not their servants.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 22 August 2025 8:42:20 AM
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I do hope that indeed there is no substance!

"Productivity" is a code-name for removing the human touch,
either replacing people with machines and/or turning people into machines.

For what?

For more low-quality products and services, lasting less so more can be produced, for more anonymous impersonal and busy faces, for not being served or being dis-served by machines, or for saving the producer's time by customers being told to do-it-yourself, so they waste their own time which is not accounted for. All for greed, including the greed for more taxes.

I do hope the author is right and this 3-day conference is only for political show!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 22 August 2025 8:54:16 AM
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"Productivity" is a code-name for removing the human touch,
Yuyutsu,
That too but the main goal is to garner sufficient funding to increase the Public Service aka Labor vote base.
Posted by Indyvidual, Friday, 22 August 2025 9:23:58 AM
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Dear Indyvidual,

Oh well, it's OK if these and other beggars get their pound of meat, if only they can do so without disturbing us - and if conferences is what appeases their boredom then let them have these conferences too...
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 22 August 2025 10:53:35 AM
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Indy,

Everything you enjoy today, is thanks to the productivity of others. These knockers like this Old Fart Prasser, who have produced nothing of worth in his entire life. He was into "policy and research', in other words a blowhard full of hot air, one of those bureaucrats you love to hate, Indy.
Posted by Paul1405, Sunday, 24 August 2025 5:29:07 AM
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Everything you enjoy today, is thanks to the productivity of others.
Paul1405,
Partly. not everything, quite a lot of it is from myself & quite a lot of what those before me & now those after me have & are enjoying is from them & me.
I'm simply one of the many taxpayers that actually worked rather than just spent time at a desk playing Solitaire & engage in Social media. I still recall getting phon calls from clients diverted to my phone in the field because the office girls were busy in the aforementioned.
There's no denying that bureaucracy is a massive sponge that never gets squeezed even you'd agree with that. I think we can safely assume that if the Public Service bureaucracy was reduced by 50 % it would perform far more satisfactorily as performance & merit would be clearly observable. It can also not be denied that far too many bureaucrats (not including PS who do meaningful work) are grossly immorally overpaid. In my book no PS should be paid more than the PM & he's already getting too much for what he gives in return.
We really need a separate term for Public Servants who are not in bureaucracy. We could call them Public Servants & the meaningless & unproductive we could call Bureaucrats. Same with Academics vs Professionals !
Underperforming Judiciary should be voted in by the taxpayers rather than appointed by their peers.
Image what a superb society we could be ?
Posted by Indyvidual, Sunday, 24 August 2025 8:46:18 AM
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Dear Paul,

«Everything you enjoy today, is thanks to the productivity of others.»

I cannot speak for "Indyvidual", but are you then claiming that s/he is a slavemaster, holding the whip for others to "work, work, work, harder, harder, harder"?

As far as I am concerned, much of what I suffer from today is due to the non-spontaneous and unjoyful over-productivity of others.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 24 August 2025 10:34:18 AM
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Yuyutsu,
You have no idea how quick some of the indigenous (ring) leaders are to remind outside workers to do their job but turn around & remind them of their duties & you'd very quickly realise on which side of integrity they're standing !
The whole circus has become one of unwarranted accusations fostered by academic do-gooders !
The losers are mostly the innocent in the communities just like in our society. Paul 1405 is a fine example of the hypocritical side of the fence & why no progress is noticeable !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 25 August 2025 12:00:16 PM
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Dear Indyvidual,

Yes, there are numerous things I have no idea about because I have no interest in.
Is your last post related in any way to the issues I mentioned?
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 25 August 2025 12:23:33 PM
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Yuyutsu,
Well, we'll have to call you Ostrich then !
Posted by Indyvidual, Monday, 25 August 2025 8:56:21 PM
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Hi Yuyutsu,

There are many examples of achievement by our black brothers and sisters, despite the racism of people like Indy, who will denigrate Aboriginal folk as being worthless in his eyes.

"As far as I (Yuyutsu) am concerned, much of what I suffer from today is due to the non-spontaneous and unjoyful over-productivity of others." I agree there is much greed in our society, as people demand more and more of the pie for themselves, and are unwilling to share with others.

p/s There was about 20,000 people at the Palestinian protest in Brisbane on Sunday, very peaceful. There were a few neo-Nazi's around trying their best to stir up trouble, but it was a very peaceful protest. There was even a Jewish group there, trying to promote peace in the Middle East, good on them for standing up for what is right.
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 26 August 2025 5:52:40 AM
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Dear Paul,

I certainly agree with your last post, all three paragraphs,
but none of them, nor Indyvidual's response, addresses my original point, which is that I oppose this whole crazy concept of "productivity".

(p/s)
More and more Israelis are refusing to serve in Netanyahu's army, risking jail - I am proud of them, and the army's chiefs too oppose Netanyahu and though obeying orders for the time-being, tell him that what he asks of them is impossible. Netanyahu's behaviour is bringing undue shame to Jews, including in Australia, where the Jewish communities had to go underground.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 26 August 2025 6:23:43 AM
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Thanks Scott Prasser for the article.

All civilizations need to be able to support their own productivity, it seems that there is creeping death spreading through Australian society.

We need to be more self sufficient even if it is more expensive. One way to do this is by consuming and investing and producing durable goods. Bad principles lead to pain in the long term even if you think you can avoid the responsibilities of your consumer decisions in the short term.

If fresh vegetables are too expensive at the supermarket, eat dried vegetables, and cut the supermarkets out.

Don't consume and support businesses that don't employ or support you or your children, or that support policies against you. If you don't know how, find out.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 3:34:44 AM
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It's seems that Scott Prasser is correct as the Australian Labor Party's economic policy is about taxing more rather than more productivity. Taking a bigger part of the pie rather than using their leadership expertise to create a bigger pie.

At some point you have to ask does the ALP even know what leadership is? Idiots and ambulance chasers. It seems that the ALP wouldn't get the people to work, by making the trains run on time (because that requires effort, and the ALP wants to create more dependency anyway), but by crashing the train, and in the smoke complain about how bad the train crash is, people would forget about getting to work
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 3:45:02 AM
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