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Forcing the Palestinians out of Gaza is a recipe for unimaginable disaster : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 14/2/2025

We have known Trump to be unhinged and unpredictable, and often thoughtless and insensitive, but not once has it occurred to many of us that he is capable of stretching insanity to such new heights as he embarks on a journey of conquest.

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Hysterical nonsense.
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 14 February 2025 9:05:47 AM
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Not without precedent. I've heard the example of the Sudetenland raised, where three million ethnic Germans were relocated after the war because of their support of the Nazis. Gaza has failed, so doing the same thing over seems to be the stupid choice.
Posted by Fester, Friday, 14 February 2025 10:37:37 AM
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Fester

The fact that there is historical precedent for ethnic cleansing does not make Trump’s plan any less monstrous.

Why is it that the Trump supporters who urged us before his election to take him seriously but not literally, now insist on taking his most vile and preposterous proposals as genuine and worthy of sober consideration. This plan is about as plausible as his proposed purchase of Greenland; but as Alon Ben-Meir points out, its consequences are far, far, more damaging.

Gazans don’t want to leave Gaza. Egypt, Jordan and Israel’s other neighbours do not want to take them. Perhaps if Trump is serious, he should offer to resettle them in West Virginia, which voted 70% for Trump at the election. Let’s see how that goes down with his MAGA base.
Posted by Rhian, Friday, 14 February 2025 11:43:20 AM
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The 'Palestinian' problem has dragged on for 70 years and we are no closer to fixing it today than we were 70 years ago.

The previous 'solutions' have all been utter failures. Half the world chants for a two state solution even though it's no closer to being realised than it was 50 years ago and has been repeated rejected by the Palestinians themselves.

So 70 years of blood-shed. 70 years of failed proposals. And now a new idea and they all chant as one that we must go back to the old failed policies. Why, its almost like they don't want a solution unless it involves the end of Israel.
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 14 February 2025 12:22:50 PM
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Forcing Gazans to leave is absolutely wrong, I agree.
But forcing them instead to have their own state and live in it under a beastly regime - is that less evil?

Gazans have suffered way too much and too long:
if anyone truly cares for them, then they should find them new place(s), build it/them, offer them free and respectable transport and send in observers to ensure that no Gazan is coerced into staying there against their will.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 14 February 2025 12:51:24 PM
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Hi Yuyustu

I partly agree. If Gazans wish to leave, and somewhere else is willing to take them, then they should be free to go. But indications are that most don’t want to leave, in which case, they shouldn’t be forced to.

I also agree that they should not be forced to live under a beastly regime. Unfortunately, on the one occasion they were offered the choice, they voted for Hamas. Subsequent surveys have show fairly high levels of support for Hamas among Gazans, though it seems to have fallen in the past 17 months. The only other organisation close to a Palestinian government at present is the Palestinian Authority, which is unpopular, corrupt and incompetent. It has also show understandable reluctance to take on the job of running Gaza after the war.

It may be a forlorn hope, but this is my wish for the outcome of this horrible conflict:

1) Something akin to the Marshall Plan in which the international community commits to rebuilding Gaza. This is not just about property, infrastructure and economic capacity, it’s also about building a sustainable peaceful polity, similar to the “denazification” of Germany after WW2. Hamas has been seriously damaged militarily and organisationally, but if it (or something similar) is not to emerge from the ashes, its ideology must be defeated.

2) Involving the sensible regional players in building a real two-state solution in which both Palestinians and Israelis recognise each other’s right to exist, and agree to co-exist peacefully. This is not the “two state solution” apparently envisaged by our government, in which countries recognise “Palestine” as a “state” (even though it clearly isn’t), and without Israel and Palestine having to recognise each other.

3) As part of the two-state agreement, Israel withdrawing from the West Bank and East Jerusalem and negotiating an agreed outcome for other disputed territories.

4) International commitment to provide whatever economic and military resources are needed to make 1-3 work.

My guess is your response may also be “I partly agree”!
Posted by Rhian, Friday, 14 February 2025 1:47:08 PM
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