Farnortherner,

If I say John Mikkelsen is wrong and he disputes that, then I get to ask follow-up questions that would settle the matter. This is a debating forum. Telling me to go and find the answers to questions Mikkelsen should have answered himself is unreasonable.

You say you are well read on this issue, but your three statements immediately following that claim suggest that your reading has been very shallow indeed.

Haha that coming from John D who called a baby born alive a foetus! Maybe he should write his own opinion piece for a change Farnortherner and answer his own questions which are irrelevant to the basic inhumane issue of live babies not receiving palliative care after failed abortions.

Mikko2,

It doesn’t matter what you call them. They could be writing poetry for all I care. My points remain regardless.

As for my questions, you’ve now shifted the goalposts somewhat. Earlier, you also said:

“The issue is not mainly about abortion but live births following late term abortions and it is a fact that what the article depicts is actually happening too often.”

Now it’s just:

“... the basic inhumane issue of live babies not receiving palliative care after failed abortions.”

In response to your shifting of the goalposts, here’s another set of questions you haven’t answered that will help provide context to, and gauge the accuracy of, your suggestion that this practice is widespread and legal:

1. To what extent does the issue of live-born infants not receiving palliative care reflect a broader, systemic problem across Australia, or are these cases more isolated and possibly sensationalised?

2. What ethical guidelines are in place to guide healthcare providers in deciding whether to provide or withhold palliative care for infants born alive after failed abortions?

3. What are the TYPICAL actions taken by healthcare providers in Australia when they encounter a live birth after a failed abortion?

I take it from your shifting of the goalposts that you don’t have answers to any of the questions I’ve posed?

Same goals, same goal posts for me, Same own goals from you John D.
To quote a Fleetwood Mac hit, You Can Go Your Own Way.

John Daysh, could you please advise your qualifications in whatever subject (s). It would be interesting to know.
I have noted that you have Mikko2 in your headspace. Maybe you comment on all opinion pieces though.
I find it amusing but this subject of LATE TERM ABORTION is not amusing at all.
These are well formed babies which are being aborted and it is nothing more than murder in my opinion.
Abortions for medical reasons used to have to be carried out no later than three months or during the first trimester.
It was always deemed that the birth must be carried out if more than 12 weeks but then if the mother still did not want the baby, it could be adopted out.
Lord knows there are heaps of people wanting children who cannot carry a pregnancy full term for whatever reason.
This late term abortion should have much more stringent laws. I feel those who passed this are less than humane.
Seems Queensland (and other states) are hellbent on getting rid of both ends of humanity with abortion for unwanted babies and euthanasia for the elderly.

Frankly John Dayesh you are becoming a pain in the rear end.
You leap onto everyone with long studies of criticism and expect them
to similarly engage with you.

On this subject the solution is clear, if any other staff such as a
nurse is upset enough then ring the police and report a murder taking
place in the hospital. That it is an ongoing matter they will arrive
with all twos and blues.
I doubt the nurse would lose her job as the hospital's reputation
is at stake.

That such a situation is considered normal is horrifying.
What happened to the Hippocratic Oath ?