Palestinians have shot themselves in the foot following 7/10. Palestinians have a slim hope for a future back in Jordan if they could behave in an acceptable manner, but that’s very unlikely.

Gaza is a fire ants nest and needs to be eradicated by Israel for the future sake of peace.

That’s realism.

The two state nonsense was never afloat to be sunk.

"The attempt by President Biden and the UN Security Council to adopt a specific two-state solution has turned out to be a political disaster."
- No more of a political disaster that the Israel project represents in and of itself.
Creating an apartheid occupying state in the M/E and thinking you can expand borders into your neighbours territory 'Greater Israel' and control the entire region.
Hows that working out?

"This Obama-Biden abstention was a vindictive act against Israel's national interest"
- You say that like someone who knows the entire US congress is bought and paid for.

Before you get ahead of yourself with any future plans, lets see Israel retake the northern territories first.

Netanyahu is trying really hard to bring the US into the conflict, seems almost like the two are playing 'Good Cop, Bad Cop', but are somewhat both in cahoots.

I'm sure Israel will receive some kind of serious retaliation in the coming day, there's been a constant flow of Russian military transport planes landing in Tehran, but Russia, China and Iran are playing more of a patient long game I think.

Israel knows that it has been committing the type of acts that will lead to inevitable, so I think they feel the only way they can have peace is to wipe the Palestinians out entirely.
'Us or them'

America knows that if it wants to start a big war timing is important, they may have deduced the time is now, though I'm not sure they have the enough weapons to conduct it. Russia, China, Iran and all these other nations are forging strategic relationships with each other and their combined military power is growing stronger.

As for me, I'm hoping Israel gets a good taste of its own medicine.
They deserve it, they're acting like NAZI SS.

they're acting like NAZI SS
Armchair Critic,
Don't you mean "reacting" ?

The Jews probably start to understand why they were targeted almost a Century ago themselves !

Hi Indy,
Maybe, I dunno. Who threw the first rock?
Ultimately stateless occupied people have a right to resist.
I don't support Islam, but I will defend the innocent in a matter of human rights, and I will defend stateless people in their right to live in peace and dignity.

Let me ask a question:
When an innocent pensioner in England gets stabbed to death for no reason and the attacker says 'This is for Palestine!'
besides the attacker themselves, how many people are indirectly at fault or had a hand in the situation developing?

Israel and America have been exporting their war-enraged crazies to our western countries.
And it's all Pro-Jewish neoconservative foreign policy starting these conflicts and overthrows.

http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=neoconservatives+pro+jewish

Dear Indyvidual,

«The Jews probably start to understand why they were targeted almost a Century ago themselves !»

Will you kindly enlighten us about the reason(s)?

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Dear Critic,

«When an innocent pensioner in England gets stabbed to death for no reason and the attacker says 'This is for Palestine!'»

That is not possible.

While we may not know the true reason(s) for the stabbing, nobody can ever suffer without having previously done something similar/equivalent to deserve it.

This stabber has no clue why they succeeded, thus that argument "for Palestine" is total nonsense which does not help "Palestinians" in any way whatsoever.

«and I will defend stateless people in their right to live in peace and dignity.»

So what makes YOU think that you know about their rights?
Is all their history revealed to you like an open book?
Had they earlier failed to live in peace and dignity themselves, then no wonder they will not enjoy peace and dignity this time around.

«besides the attacker themselves, how many people are indirectly at fault or had a hand in the situation developing?»

Just one, not even including the attacker - only the one attacked.

"That is not possible."
- It happened outside the Rotherham Hotel a few weeks back before the stabbing of kids at the Taylor Swift dance party in Southport, England prior to the recent unrest.

"So what makes YOU think that you know about their rights?
Is all their history revealed to you like an open book?"

- Everyone has a right to live in peace and dignity.
Both the Palestinians, and your Jewish family.

Though I'm not sure how this is possible right now.

What's the history of 2 year old kids blown to pieces by US bombs by Israel?
What was their crime, should they apologise to Israel for being born?
I'm sure I can probably find some images of decapitated children from bombed refugee tent camps in Gaza if you like?

Nobody is responsible for things that happened before they were born.

- You may see things differently.

Dear Critic,

«It happened outside the Rotherham Hotel a few weeks back before the stabbing of kids at the Taylor Swift dance party in Southport, England prior to the recent unrest.»

No dispute over the fact that people were stabbed to death - what I claim to be impossible is that they were innocent. The claim that bad things can happen to good people is short-sighted and may lead to despair - it paints a picture of a chaotic world where anything just happens at random, whereas we live in a cosmos where the universe is governed by infallible laws, not only the well-known laws of physics for gross matter but also other laws governing thoughts and experiences.

«- Everyone has a right to live in peace and dignity.
Both the Palestinians, and your Jewish family.»

That is from a limited human perspective: we should indeed have that attitude, we ought to treat others with peace and dignity, yet we should do this for our own spiritual well-being, not because others necessary deserve it, which we cannot tell.

Suppose for example some Gazans are now suffering because in a previous life they were soldiers of Pol Pot inflicting horrible tortures on Cambodian families: we have no way to know that, but if despite trying we fail in our attempts to treat them with peace and dignity, then we can retrospectively deduce that they are being punished for their previous actions.

«What's the history of 2 year old kids blown to pieces by US bombs by Israel?
What was their crime»

This is beyond our capacity to know, so all we can say in this case is that there was a crime they commited. It could have been fighting for Pol Pot or the Myanmar military junta, it could have persecuting the Uighurs in China, or it could have been a bad case of domestic violence or perhaps drug and human trafficking. We don't know which of them, but some crime must be there.

Will you kindly enlighten us about the reason(s)?
Yuyutsu,
Look at the parallels with 1930's Germany.

Dear Indivudual,

«Look at the parallels with 1930's Germany.»

What exactly did German Jews do to the Germans to deserve their persecution?

Hi Yuyutsu,

Lets say I accept your premise that reincarnation exists and that people sometimes must suffer for deeds done in a past life.

I think there's 2 ways we can look at this, not just one.

You think the pensioner and toddler may have done something bad in a past life;
Why would you look at it just one way?

'Bad things happen in next life because of bad things done in a previous life.'

Is what we see happening here

A/ Bad things done by Israelis for which they will be punished in the next life; or
B/ Bad things done by Palestinians in a past life for which they are now punished for in this life?

Is it A, B, or both?

Going with that line of thinking, one might say if you do bad things, you might come back in the next life as a Palestinian?

In any case I don't prescribe to this thinking, I just think all people should be able to live in peace and safety, and with respect decency and dignity.

Everybody has the right to live however they choose so long as it doesn't harm to others.

Don't you want a better world, where lives have value?
Or should we just accept things the way they are?
- Even when pensioners and toddlers are killed for no particular reason.

I still ask how many people had a hand in the mess coming to be?
And don't subjugated people have a right to live free and be happy with dignity as much as the next person?

Yuyutsu

The problem for Israel is the lost memory of almost two thousand years since Bar Kochba and the recent reestablishment of present day Israel.

A direct cause of that long exile was internal discord, and bingo, today the internal discord is attributed to leftist agitation against its established diplomatic strength which as in the West is leading to a calamitous end.

You and your selfish little group of traitors are bringing it down!

Dear Critic,

«A/ Bad things done by Israelis for which they will be punished in the next life; or
B/ Bad things done by Palestinians in a past life for which they are now punished for in this life?

Is it A, B, or both?»

Both, but then it is also possible for one to be punished in the very life they commit crimes, one need not always have to wait for the next life.

And yes, Israelis suffer as well from this bloody war, in this very life, not just Palestinians.

«Going with that line of thinking, one might say if you do bad things, you might come back in the next life as a Palestinian?»

Quite possible.

«Everybody has the right to live however they choose so long as it doesn't harm to others.»

This is an ideal, but was it ever like that?
The people of Gaza would rather not be there.
People with disabilities would rather be whole.

«Don't you want a better world, where lives have value?»

You cannot have a better world than the one we have, otherwise you would be blaming God for a sloppy creation.
Of course one should try to improve life, but one may not always succeed.
Earth was never meant to be heaven: while it is most good, it is on purpose not the most pleasant.
Lives have a value, human lives in particular, but that value is finite, not unlimited.

«Or should we just accept things the way they are?»

If you do, then you will find peace. Now the choice is yours.

«Even when pensioners and toddlers are killed for no particular reason.»

Again, nothing happens for no particular reason, even if we fail to know what it is.

«And don't subjugated people have a right to live free and be happy with dignity as much as the next person?»

If they make it to freedom, happiness and dignity, then they deserve so. Otherwise we must conclude retrospectively that they didn't. That is not to say that they should give up and not try, again and again.

Dear Dan,

«The problem for Israel is the lost memory of almost two thousand years since Bar Kochba and the recent reestablishment of present day Israel.»

2,000 years is highly exaggerated - about half.

I am presently reading a fascinating book titled "When have we become Jews".

Accordingly, following the string of Judean revolts, including in North Africa and Cyprus (115-117), no Judean historians were left and we have no accounts to explain how Judeans spread in Europe, nothing was known about them until 882 and still very little until 1096 AD, about the time when they morphed into Jews as we know them today.

«A direct cause of that long exile was internal discord, and bingo, today the internal discord is attributed to leftist agitation»

The original Zionists were peace-lovers who wanted to share their new modern land equally with the local Arab population. Indeed, many of whom were socialist, not all. They came to build, not to fight.

Much later on, they were joined by fanatic Jewish Messianic zealots (most with American background) who overturned the spirit of what the Zionists wished to build and effectively robbed them of the country they built.

Discord need not be violent - since there are completely opposing visions for the "Jewish state", I see no other way but splitting Israel in two. This split was about to occur, but is now postponed due the events of October 7th: it is bound to surface again.