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How Netanyahu made the creation of a Palestinian state irreversible : Comments

By Alon Ben-Meir, published 24/5/2024

It is ironic how Prime Minister Netanyahu, who vehemently opposed the establishment of a Palestinian state, made it all but irreversible because of his misguided policies and extreme ideological bent.

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More “Bollocks” from the Democrats poison pen slave!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 24 May 2024 9:39:45 AM
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A good article, except for one problem:

The so-called "Palestinians" do not want to have a state of their own.

Nevertheless, let's embarrass them to the core by giving them that state they do not want!

"But then, what would it take for Netanyahu and his messianic ministers, especially Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, to wake up and realize that every day that passes without a solution, not only will more Israelis and Palestinians be killed in vain"

They are two different questions:

1) As far as Netanyahu is concerned, Israelis and Palestinians are not killed in vain but for the very "noble" purpose of keeping him out of jail. Once he receives an official pardon from Israel's president, he will no longer care whether or not there is a Palestinian state.

2) As far as Netanyahu's messianic ministers, Ben-Gvir and Smotrich, are concerned, Israelis and Palestinians are not killed in vain but for the very "noble" purpose of paving the road for the Jewish Messiah to come, rule as King over Israel, subdue all other nations and enforce the strict laws of the Torah over all Jews. I cannot see anything that can detract them from their inspirations, but once they are no longer ministers, that would remain only their private inspirations.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:45:46 AM
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A good article, except for one problem:

The so-called "Palestinians" do not want to have a state of their own.

Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 24 May 2024 10:45:46 AM

Didn't read passed that opening. That says it all really.

Are you a Jew?
Posted by Random, Friday, 24 May 2024 4:04:28 PM
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Dear Random,

«Didn't read passed that opening.»

[The correct word is 'past': "passed" is the past-tense of "pass"]

What a pity because if you did, you could see that I support a Palestinian state anyway, whether they themselves like it or not.

You see, I support Israel and so I like it to be free from the shackles of Netanyahu, his Nazi companions, the Jewish-Messianic West-Bank settlers and those cursed territories it occupies since 1967.

A Palestinian state is good for Israel - a step in the right direction!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 24 May 2024 5:21:23 PM
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Yuyutsu.

The US Democrat Administration believes Hamas not to be a terror group, but an “Idea”, therefore cannot be defeated; on the strength of that decision, rests the foundation of the two State demand, foisted onto Israel which very few Israelis will have a bar of.

From the Biden Administrations conclusion built on defeatism, that Palestinians are an extension of the idea “Hamas”, which many agree with, a different solution could be arrived at built on the notion that a “the only good Palestinian is a dead one”, since they are commonly believed to be irredeemable; so a two State solution or annihilation of Palestinians as a consequence of a war which Israel must win seems tidy thinking!
Posted by diver dan, Friday, 24 May 2024 8:00:32 PM
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Dear Dan,

I find it difficult to understand why you address me about Some Americans and their politics.

What have I to do with them?
They have their ideas - I have mine.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Saturday, 25 May 2024 7:49:55 PM
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Yuyutsu

#What have I to do with them?#

Only you would know that. But my own observation of your position on the future of Gaza and the US demand for a two State solution, your views on the West Bank, your position on Judicial Reform and your irrational hatred of Netanyahu, mimic the US Democrat Administrations position since Obama.

The one I’m not certain about is your view on the Iranian JCPOA, but I would assume, since your in lock step with the radical Israeli Left and their over willingness to be the paid mercenaries of the Democrat destabilisation of the Democratically elected Netanyahu Coalition, you are so pro US Democrat, you are as American as a grandma’s apple pie.

Could I be wrong?
Posted by diver dan, Sunday, 26 May 2024 10:03:33 PM
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Dear Dan,

«your position on Judicial Reform and your irrational hatred of Netanyahu, mimic the US Democrat Administrations position since Obama.»

Did it occur to you that perhaps they are mimicking me?

«since your in lock step with the radical Israeli Left and their over willingness to be the paid mercenaries of the Democrat destabilisation of the Democratically elected Netanyahu Coalition»

Again, did it occur to you that perhaps it is the American Democrats who are willing to serve and help the Israeli Left?

When someone is helping Israel to get rid of that criminal multi-murderer Netanyahu, also making every effort to release the Israeli hostages, I don't need to agree with them on any other things they might stand for or even to study their philosophy - I only say "Thank You!".

And BTW, Netanyahu's Coalition was not democratically elected by the people of Israel, but was created by Netanyahu's political maneuvers - and their slim majority is only a result of an electoral glitch. All Israeli electoral surveys clearly show that this coalition has lost its majority long ago (if it ever had any).

«you are as American as a grandma’s apple pie.

Could I be wrong?»

It so seems - I have never even been to the United States of America, not in my present birth anyway!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 26 May 2024 10:34:40 PM
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As I see it....
In this 'war', there is not one bad side and one good side.
They are both bad.
But the stronger side is showing cruelty to the weaker side.
One would suppose the stronger side had learnt its lesson eighty years ago.
But apparently not.
They have now reversed any favourable opinion which might be afforded them?
Except that a few of them are rightly and vehemently protesting the way their government is proceeding.
I commend the sense those few show to what is right.
Posted by Ipso Fatso, Saturday, 1 June 2024 3:44:33 PM
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